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Chris : Fishing Report ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): 8/1/09 Time on Water: 5:30-9:00 AM Temp/Weather: 70's, sunny Wind Speed/Direction: W 5 mph Waves: 1 foot Surface Temp: 69 degrees Location: I-Bay/River LAT/LONG: 31-37 W lines Long. =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 5 Total Boated: 5 Species Breakdown:5 kings Hot Lure: Kelly green Spinny/crinkle green fly twice, 42 second Spinny/Fly, NBK spoon, NK Carmel dolphin slider, Trolling Speed: 2.2-2.5 sog Down Speed: 2.0-2.4 mph Boat Depth: 150-240 fow Lure Depth: wire divers 220' #3, 240' #3, rigger 85', slider on 110' rigger ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Fishing continues to be stellar - fish were loaded starting in 150' and working north. We had our first fish 5 minutes in on our first rod - the wire Dipsy with a Kelly green Spinny/crinkle green fly out 220', #3 setting at a slow troll 2.1 mph sog. Somehow we fought this thing for 25 minutes and wound up in 240 fow...Nonetheless, we motored back in and out between 150 and 180 fow and it was a slow steady pick the rest of the morning. Best fish was a nice 22# king on our 85' rigger with an NBK spoon. First fish was 17# on the wire, and the last three estimated between 5 and 7 pounds. The last three fish were again on the Kelly green wire (220', #3) a 42 second Spinny/Fly on wire(240', #3) and a carmel dolphin free slider on the 110' rigger. I wished we could've stayed out longer..... Good luck everyone, - Chris
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7-30 IBay evening
momay4000 replied to Pike Hunter's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Anthony, Great job and congrats to your daughter!!!!! Good luck this weekend, - Chris -
Chris: Fishing Report ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): 7/30/09 Time on Water: 1-4 PM Temp/Weather: around 80 degrees Wind Speed/Direction: S then East around 5 mph Waves: <1 ft. Surface Temp: 70 degrees Location: North of I-Bay LAT/LONG: 32-33 lines W =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 2 Total Boated: 2 Species Breakdown: 1 steelhead, 1 king Hot Lure: both on DW SS Steelie Dan Trolling Speed: 2.4-2.7 sog Down Speed: 2.0-2.5 mph Boat Depth: 130-200 fow Lure Depth: rigger 125' with free slider ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Other than my first salmon with my dad, today was by far my best experience on the lake. I took the biggest king of my life tonight - 27.2#, but what made it special is: 1.) I was fishing solo 2.) My dad passed away last year and I was fishing right over the waypoint where we dropped a small urn with his ashes last year. 3.) I caught it on a free slider I realize this fish isn't a 30 or 40#'er, and to some it's just another "27" pounder, but to me it was a memory of a lifetime, especially under the circumstances I started out running 600' of copper and one wire diver, 290', both Spinnys/Flys but no takers for about an hour and a half. There was a fantastic scum line around 160' or so and that's where the fish were. As soon as I changed to a rigger program, that's when the fish hit. The scum line was loaded with bait, marks and great temp. I would have followed it, but there was a pleasure cruiser following the same line - go figure - so I had to make north/south passes through it. I had a steelie within 10 seconds of my first pass through the scum on the Steelie Dan free slider. A half hour later on my final pass through the line, the king hit. It took me 30 minutes to land the large king and I didn't realize it was on the precarious free slider until about 30' from the boat. It peeled of 450' of mono and at first I wondered if I had a log or a bag. It was peeling so fast I thought the line was going to melt! Nonetheless, I finally boated it after some extremely sloppy net work and about 10 misses with the net (thank goodness the fish was spent at the back of the boat). I couldn't even lift it in at first b/c my arms were gumbied. The fish will be headed to the wall in my office...... Good luck to all, - Chris
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IBay 7/28/09 - evening
momay4000 replied to momay4000's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Anthony, Man, that's hilarious...LMAO.....I agree with Just Fishin', you are one heck of a die-hard!!!! Later, - Chris -
IBay 7/28/09 - evening
momay4000 replied to momay4000's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Anthony, I think I might have saw you motor back in around 6 or so, just as I was coming out... Immediately I started getting clobbered by the flies and I wondered if you were heading in b/c of the flies.... We'll be at it tomorrow afternoon and both weekend days.. Good luck! - Chris -
CC, I've been using it for about three weeks - I received the narrow spools. I haven't noticed any fraying yet, but it's too early to tell. Just like everyone says, it's easy to tie and the last 10-20' don't "curl" in the rod guides. I see that as the only advantage at this time. I wish it came in smoke color... Time will tell if it holds up, but conceptually 19 "smaller" strands would fray easier vs. 7 larger strands.... - Chris
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IBay 7/28/09 - evening
momay4000 replied to momay4000's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Hi John, Congrats on getting your new boat wet and your first king!!!! I run 9'6" wire Dipsy rods, so it goes like this: 22-26" 40# mono between fly and Spinny and 7' 40# mono leader between flasher and Dipsy Good luck John!!! -Chris -
IBay 7/28/09 - evening
momay4000 replied to momay4000's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Thanks bud - honestly, I've got to do something, they were horrible tonight. The good thing is, the bites don't really itch right now, they're just annoying on the water. - Chris -
Chris: Fishing Report ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): 7/28/09 Time on Water: 6-7 PM Temp/Weather: 80's, partly cloudy Wind Speed/Direction: SW <5 mph Waves: calm Surface Temp: 68 Location: IBay LAT/LONG: north of IBay =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 3 Total Boated: 3 Species Breakdown: 3 teenage kings Hot Lure: DW modified carmel dolphin, kelly green spinny/green crinkle fly, Gator Spinny/Fly Trolling Speed: 2.7 sog Down Speed: 2.2-2.4 mph Boat Depth: 130-150 fow Lure Depth: rigger 80', 600' copper, wire diver #3, 280' out ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Planned on an evening trip with my brother, but he had a meeting so I went solo. The fishing was fantastic but I could only tolerate an hour b/c the black flies were the worst I've ever seen. I estimate I had 100-200 on my boat, biting my ankles the whole time. Deep woods Off was useless.... First hit right out of the chute on my 80' rigger with a DW modified carmel dolphin spoon. The rod was a mess so I dropped in a wire diver with a Kelly green Spinny/green fly and had my next fish about 15 minutes later. Then I pulled both the wire and other rigger and went "naked" with just a single copper down the chute b/c the flies were so bad. About 20 minutes later I had my third fish on a Gator Spinny/Fly. They liked it a little faster tonight, around 2.4 mph at the ball and there was 52-54 degree water down about 80'. Lots of debris around 130-150' and that's where the fish were. The graph looked great, fish from 50' to the bottom. It's really picking up again, I think it's going to be a fantastic weekend......if anyone has any ideas for the flies PLEASE let me know. I met CDS Whip at Mayer's tonight - what a great guy and it's always great to put a "face" to a name! Good luck to all, - Chris
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New Moor Sub Troll not working properly ??
momay4000 replied to jgrenier's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Jgrenier, I have my terminal connection from the coated cable wire go directly to the stud on the top of the probe. My Black's release is between the probe and ball (after the 4" terminal connection), not above the probe. How did you make your connection from the coated cable to the release to the probe? Also, how did you insulate the connection? -Chris -
New Moor Sub Troll not working properly ??
momay4000 replied to jgrenier's topic in Tackle and Techniques
1.) Put the probe in one foot of water such as a bucket and spin the paddle by hand as fast as you can and see what happens. 2.) Try brand new 9-volt battery 3.) Insulate the RCA connector from the attenna to the probe with electrical tape Good luck, - Chris -
07/22/09 Genny report
momay4000 replied to salmonite's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Way to go Scott - great fish!!! - Chris -
True trolling Depth?
momay4000 replied to FT's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
FT, I've often thought about this as well, but I typically use my fish finder to look where the ball it located b/c I'm not even sure how accurate the line counter is on my rigger in the first place. However, using the Pythagorean Theorem, you can probably figure it out: Since the sum of the square of the sides of a right angle triangle equals the square of the hypotenuse, you can probably calculate true depth. a2 +b2 = c2 For example, "side" a=true depth of the ball, "side" b= distance the ball is dragging back from the boat, "side" c= amount of cable out. Since a2+b2=c2, then a = sq. rt. of (c2-b2) Thus true depth = the square root of [(cable out)2 - (approximate distance back)2] So, if you have 120' of cable out and it looks to be about 40' back from the boat, the true depth will be the square root of [(120*120)- (40*40)] = about 113' down - Chris -
Chris' : Fishing Report ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):7/21/09 Time on Water: 2-5 PM Temp/Weather: 70's, party sunny with rain looming Wind Speed/Direction:E/NE 5 mph Waves: 1 ft, building to 2 foot rollers Surface Temp: 67-68 degrees Location: west of river LAT/LONG: 34-37 W lines =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 4 Total Boated: 4 Species Breakdown: 4 kings Hot Lure: DieHard Spinny/Fly; Kelly green Spinny/green crinkle fly; DW SS Steelie Dan spoon Trolling Speed: 2.2-2.8 sog Down Speed: 2.0-2.4 mph Boat Depth: 150-180 fow Lure Depth: 600' copper, wire diver #3 setting, 280' out, 110' rigger with free slider ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Had a few hours to get out before the rain - luckily we got off the lake just in time. Good action but all the bites came in a one hour span between 2-3 PM. Hottest action was in front of the stacks in 160 fow. Had a nice double with the wire and copper firing simultaneously. All kings tonight, we released all but one which unfortunately was a "natural" 10# king (I wished I could have thrown him back, but he was spent from the copper). The bite seems to have transitioned to more of a flasher/fly program, with the kelly green spinny taking two fish and the Diehard spinny another. There was beautiful temperature stratification with a down temp. of 46-48 degrees down 130' west of the river. There were pockets of warmer water,however, in front of the bay (down temp. warmed to 54-56 degrees). Not many marks on the FF and no bait. FWIW, I filleted the king and it had a 6-7" alewife in its stomach......I think it's time to transition to Mags and bag the DW SS spoons for me... Good luck to all, - Chris
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HELP on "fishing temp" for the weekend of 7/17-7/19
momay4000 replied to momay4000's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Thanks everyone, I was fishing north of I-Bay on Sunday evening. I spoke with Moor Electronics today and they said you can actually run the probe with bare metal cable and it will still work properly down to about 50' or so. If it was malfunctioning, the temp. guage would start flashing or shut down altogether,not read a constant temp.... Sounds like the temp. was true and the fish were near the thermal break or "out of temp." Thanks guys for all your help!!! - Chris -
HELP on "fishing temp" for the weekend of 7/17-7/19
momay4000 posted a topic in Open Lake Discussion
Hello everyone, I was "on call" this past weekend so I only managed to get out for two hours last night, with only one fish. My Subtroll has been acting a little funny lately, but I had a question about fishing "temperature" this past weekend. I realize the strong W/NW winds over the weekend brought a lot of warm water to the south shore of the lake, but I could not find anything colder than 64 degrees down 155' over 225' of water last night. I also noticed a lot of fish were caught in 80-160 fow over the weekend. For those of you catching fish, were you disregarding temp., or is it my probe that isn't reading temp correctly. For those of you catching fish in the shallower waters (and presumably warmer water), what were you looking for - bait, marks on your graphs, etc. to make your trips successful? FWIW I was looking at all of the temperature transect data already on the Great Lakes Coast Forecasting website. Thanks for any help, - Chris -
Friday Mid-day I-Bay Report
momay4000 replied to UpGrady's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Hi Hans, Thanks for the great reports - glad to hear you're back on the water!! I noticed you had two flasher break offs the past two days and I'm just curious how you store your flasher/flies? We had a breakoff a few weeks ago from a nice king, and it broke off the leader between the flasher and fly. Typically, I "wrap" my fly leader around the body of the Spinny and hook the fly to the side of the flasher to keep it from unravelling. However, I've noticed that the hooks are so sharp that they "nick" the leader during storage making it prone to breakage. Just my $.02..... Thanks again for the reports and a nice place to start this weekend! - Chris -
If you could only have 2 spoons what would they be?
momay4000 replied to Broadhorizons's topic in Tackle and Techniques
42 second and 42 second - Chris -
Liquid Plumber Oswego Pro-Am
momay4000 replied to dp's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Gents: I have Torpedo Wire on both my Divers and both packages came on a 4" flat spool similar to what Seaguar leader material comes on. Yes, it seems to have more fleas and I have to get used to the smaller diameter (For whatever reason I don't seem to have the confidence in it like traditional wire.) That being said, it ties very nicely and doesn't have the kinks like regular 7-strand. i did not notice any kinks in the wire, frays or other defects.... - Chris -
UPDATE - sold to Scott (Salmonite).....thanks... For sale - everything is used and in as is condition. The 47 LC's are like new and the St. Croix rods have only seen one WEEK of action. I DO NOT want to separate this stuff to figure individual prices. I'm simply cleaning out my garage and getting rid of stuff I no longer use. $125.00 takes everything - price is firm, no shipping. PM me if interested or call me at 585-301-2197 2- Shimano Triton 200GT Reels 2- Accudepth 47LC Reels 1- Daiwa Great Lakes Sealine 47LC Reel (rigged with 1000' of wire - new this year) 2 - St. Croix 8'6" Rods , medium action 1 - Berkley Shadow 7' rod 1 -Ugly Stik 6'6" Rod, medium action 1 - Daiwa Strike, 9' Rod, Dipsy rod Thx, - Chris
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Leadcore off of an inline planer board?
momay4000 replied to FLXTroutman's topic in Tackle and Techniques
Ken, When a fish is on, things to look for: 1.) The rod starts bouncing like crazy "independently" of the crests and valleys of the waves 2.) The board starts planing further back 3.) Most common - I set my drags just loose enough so line peels off when there is a fish on Good luck, - Chris -
Leadcore off of an inline planer board?
momay4000 replied to FLXTroutman's topic in Tackle and Techniques
FLX, Yes - we usually don't need to reel in the Dipsy's or the riggers. Usually, when a fish hits the core it comes to the surface and is so far back that when you start reeling it in, it is in the center of the boat and the board is a piece of cake to take off. Good luck! - Chris -
Chris: Fishing Report ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s): 7/11/09 Time on Water: lines in water 6-7 AM only(yes that's right, only one hour) Temp/Weather: 70's, party cloudy, rain looming Wind Speed/Direction: SW 10-15 knots Waves: 2-3 feet Surface Temp: 67.5 Location: I-Bay LAT/LONG: 33 W line northward =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 0 Total Boated: 0 Species Breakdown: 0 Hot Lure: 0 Trolling Speed: 2.2-3.0 mph Down Speed: 2.0 mph Boat Depth: (200 ft) Lure Depth: riggers 100', 85', wire at 230' on a #3, 600' copper ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== Short report - we only fished for one hour as I had a first-timer on the boat and he was sea-sick (bad) within 1/2 hour so we came back in after only an hour of line time. It took us longer to motor in and out than it did to fish. Nonetheless, we motored to 200' and found a very nice temp break of 45 degree water down 110'. The current was ridiculous and it was snotty so we trolled back in to 170' without a bite and then pulled the lines. We marked a few fish between 170-200', mostly on the bottom and down about 100'. I saw only two other boats out there this morning - to those of you thay stayed in, it was probably a good idea as it was quite surprisingly rough out there. We'll be back at it Thursday for a morning and a late evening fish. Sorry the report isn't more helpful, but we weren't at it long enough..... Good luck to all, - Chris
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Leadcore off of an inline planer board?
momay4000 replied to FLXTroutman's topic in Tackle and Techniques
FLX, I run 3 colors, 5 color and ten color core exclusively with an in-line planer. The only limitation is if the waves are >2 feet b/c the rod really takes a beating. I NEVER rig the board to slide down the core b/c I'm always concerned it'll slam the fish in the nose and knock it off. Here's how I rig it: 1.) Let out all the core until the knot is at the water line 2.) Attach my Church Walleye board to the braid backing (I set the keel weight as far forward to the boat as possible) 3.) Then I half hitch the braided line with a rubber band and I coil the loop around the release about two or three times until it's tight so the braid won't slide through the release. When it's rough, I'll use two rubber bands 4.) Then I let out about 100-150 feet of line so it planes to the side 5.) When a fish hits, we reel up to the board, break the rubber band(s), remove the planer board and reel hard to keep tension on the fish I learned this technique from a Charter Capt. in Ludington, MI about 10 years ago and it works great. Good luck, - Chris