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My 6 amp won’t keep up. The amp rating is from higher rpm than what engine runs at trolling speed so you don’t see rated amps. I put a trickle charger on to keep batteries fully charged. Using high speed riggers and fishing deep take some juice. When I update my kicker I’ll go for more amps.

Dave’s number is 607-729-5711

They still have 50’s for $149 this morning-not in bargain cave-regular fishing section under trolling reels. No 30’s listed and 40’s are regular price. With Bass Pro owning them likely some different vendor and stocking going to happen.

Prices are in the attachment. Medium body is $14.95 and blades are $2.50 each. For $20 I’ll let somebody else give them a try - I’ve got way to much stuff already LOL

Seems to have a different flash. Think you would need to rig and let out carefully especially off a rigger. Agree with Hard Knox that a fly would need something like their action disc to get movement. This might not pull hard especially compared to a big flasher. The stores in Washington have big selections of flashers in style and size with a complete aisle taken up. Spoons on the other hand will be just a small section. Meat is big out there. Thinking this flasher could be interesting off a copper with a spoon.

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Looks like the “Smart Fish Flasher” shows as discontinued on Dreamweaver site. You may try EBay or some of the shops for old stock. Angler’s Avenue and Fish USA could be good places to check. I’ve seen them but never ran any. Hope you find what you want.

I have a 9.9 Yamaha on my Proline 25 Walk and it has plenty of power. The only issue I have is the 6 amp alternator (rated @ wot) doesn't keep up on battery charge especially when fishing deep riggers. When I update I'll look for higher rated alternator which might mean going to 15hp. Seems high speed riggers draw more juice than the old slow riggers.

Adventure Marine has a good one. I have been real happy with mine. Powder coated with a plastic insert for kicker to attach to.

IMO the presentation will be effected more by what you run on the end of the copper/lead. Light spoon like a DW Super slim will run like it is on lead. A big Mag spoon or flasher fly will run more like it is on straight copper. The main reason I've added lead to copper was to speed up getting short coppers set on boards when running a light spoon. Fixes a speed issue/deployment thing for me more than a presentation advantage. Under certain conditions the hybrids do perform well-more of an early season setup.

If you are new to copper I would say just run copper and get comfortable with it. On long coppers I wouldn't add lead. Only place I used it was on short coppers running off boards and I felt I could get the copper deployed quicker with a little lead on the front- fishing high with multiple lines. To me the copper/lead setup is a special application setup. For somebody working on their spread I'd focus on more basic stuff first.

I have used an Albright knot and would leave enough copper to haywire twist the end. Then I would coat copper end with liquid rubber to finish. Couple colors of leadcore helps the copper deploy easier also think you still get leadcore movement especially with spoons.

X2 on issue's with Coldwater Tackle. Was shorted on a couple backordered/drop ship items. Got one email response then no further contact. I had done a "trial" order so I don' plan to go back after getting stiffed.

It's a three day event-started Friday so it wraps up Sunday early afternoon. Think it's a 100 boat field so ramp could be busy. Shouldn't be hard to see where guys are if they get out.

FYI that the Con Club Tournament wraps up Sunday 8/6 in Dunkirk. If lake is fisheable the ramp will probably be busy. Couple that with the unsettled weather and it might be wise to look at an alternate date/other port. Fishing has been good-lots of short fish to sort through-when you can get out.

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Put 30lb Big Game with 20lb fluoro leader on your rigger rods so you are safe with fleas. Run wire dipsey's if you have them. Check your drags as you can't have them hammered down tight. Get some flies to run with flashers and check the sizes of your spoons. You'll also likely be fishing deeper and faster than what you be used to on Erie. Have good terminal tackle-kings will find the weakest link. Have fun!