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Now that the 2cd gen is stocking the freezer I can afford to be a bit more of a watcher than a killer and it feels great. This is what I saw; Sat am- 2 does moved thru then 1 more ran thru chased by a basket rack.Quit at 8:30 to get eldest to work. Sat pm- 3 does feeding. Then later watched a good 8pt pt escort a doe into a brushy area. Sun am- Saw a number of does come thundering thru my stand area. They had obviously been pushed out of a wooded area to the west of my property boundary where there was a tremendous amount of shooting. Quit at 9 to go out to brkfast. Sun at 1PM- My sons and I were putting the finishing touches on a new stand when a doe came running along the other side of the hedgerow we were putting the stand in. As the doe turned thru a barway she crossed to our side turned to go back where she had come from and almost ran us over. She was trailed by a nice 6 pt who stopped as he came thru the barway and stood 20 yards away staring at the three of us. He must have been trying to figure out if she was worth trying to go thru the 3 of us to get to or not. Ultimately, he finally went the opposite way into the woods.

Jeez, how did I miss out on this thread! HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY BOB p.s. If you can remember how to get here I've got some venison sausage for ya!

The good quality stuff is not cheap, and the cheap stuff is worthless! I've used both these suppliers for whole herring, alewives and bait strips; http://www.fishonbait.com/index.php?opt ... 1&Itemid=6 and http://shop.gltsupplies.com/merchant2/ To be honest w/ you though I think you will find that most of this stuff will work when most of the rest of the arsenal is hot but doesn't give you much advantage when the fish are negative. The only partial exception to this rule I've seen so far is live alewives on neutral smallies and even that isn't set in stone. Good luck! -Andy

Tristan (T bone) turned 16 a couple weeks back and he was bound & determined to hunt alone in his own stand with 'nobody around'. In checking out the scene I could see he calmly made sure this 8pt walked through brushy cover into the only clear shooting lane, stopped him and sealed the deal with a well placed shot thru the boiler room with a good old 870. The buck only went about 20yds.

I've certainly had lot's of people conduct 'research' on shoulder shots here but, thankfully, so far none of this archery research work has been done on bovine scapulae

Not sure why we gotta reinvent the wheel all the time but I guess it's human nature to think there's gonna be a magic bullet out there that will solve all problems. Probably the nature of those of us who get too absorbed into one specific activity from time to time Anyway, just wanted to add my 2 cents to this thread, so here it goes; In my opinion there is nothing wrong w/ expanding bhs but there's nothing wrong w/ fixed ones either. Since expanding bhs have more moving parts it is predictable that they can produce a more varied result when used. The variance that I have seen encompasses results that are sometimes better and sometimes worse than fixed bhs. I've been hunting deer w/ a bow for 35 years (taking 2-5 deer/year for most of that span)and call me what you will I like consistency in a bh even if that means that sometimes I don't get maximum performance. A few years ago I experimented w/ grim reapers,rage, Hyper Shoks, and a few other expanding bhs for 3 years and in the end I just came to the conclusion that I didn't need the variation I saw when they contacted bone in general. Now I'll admit I'm a whimpy, older, guy who has slowly backed down to 60lb on my current bow, a 31" draw Matthews Drenalin, but I've got news for you- we're all on the same trajectory guys! Anyway, I've come to terms with consistent, average performance in broad side, shallow quartering towards to steep quartering away shots using fixed bhs. For the time being I'm using the smaller Slick Tricks and as long as I can get a couple deer out of each bh w/ out changing blades I guess they aren't too expensive or time consuming. Just my 2 cents, -Andy

For what it's worth that Islander has been gone from Jason's driveway since April sometime.

Scott, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. -Andy

JK- Thanks for the Fed link & I think I will try an IC choke on one of our model 2000 Autos. Borderline- Anything on BC 'going right through a coyote at 60yds' would be appreciated. It seems like kind of a tall order to me but since my boys usually 'cover' my back when we're setting up on predators maybe we should consider swapping out our traditional 3" 00BK loads for BC which does have a 225 fps muzzle vel. advantage. -Andy

Not sure what to make of these BC commentaries but it would be very helpful if those of you with access to credible BC user problem reports could provide us w/ a link to the info so we can read the reports ourselves. Thanks, -Andy

Most of the scrapes you see are made by young bucks who are typically inconsistent and pretty clue less about the whole breeding business. Unless you hunt the Adirondacks I don't think I would hunt scrapes unless you are pretty certain about a daylight pattern. Without educating the deer, try & get a sense from the scrapes (and the rubs) how the bucks travel to and from doe bedding and feeding areas and set up on those high percentage routes. Remember it's super important to take into account how you can make low impact entrances & exits to and from those buck travel corridors when you pick the spots to hunt those high percentage routes. Good luck & enjoy the adventure! -Andy

Good going Greg! -Andy

Killed an older heavy 7 on Sat am-no swelling at all. Have seen a few other 2 1/2s sniffing beds and checking scrapes but no chasing,etc. I would think that the bucks, and consequently the does too, will begin to become considerably less predictable by the end of the weekend and especially into next week,so if you are looking to try and take advantage of a traffic pattern to arrow one you should do so sooner rather than later! -Andy Quote Legacy (Rob); I have witnessed zero chasing but every doe i have seen in the past 5-6 days seems to be on edge and far from relaxed P.S. Yo Rob, all mature does are on edge almost all the time - ask your wife about this after you have had a few kids. It's most of what keeps a species going

BD you have a good one! -Andy

Something to remember is that the longer the fishing rod the more leverage you give to the fish and the harder it is to weave the rod thru other rigs that might get enmeshed with it. A 7' rod will work fine even with mag size dipsy divers and so will a 10' rod. The important part of a wire diver combo is that entire setup has enough flex,elasticity, and overall give to accommodate the savage hit and instantaneous shock associated with a diver strike without allowing the fish to either gain slack line and shake the hooks or tear them out. You need a rod/reel/drag combo that will allow you to hook up,fight and finally control and lift that diver fish into the net's range. Needless to say some trial and error with your own specific equipment and boat situation will ultimately produce a happy outcome- just keep the whole package in mind.-Andy

Very sad tale! It's amazing to watch the large risks taken by people every day this time of year for sure. On Sunday we were perch fishing on Port Bay and watched a little light weight flat bottom almost capsize cuz it had 3 big dudes in it w/ about 3" of freeboard. Nobody in the boat had a PFD and about every 20 minutes you could see somebody baling out the boat! -Andy

Have a great Birthday Pete! -Andy

More or less tagged myself out of Bow Season Sat am so made arrangements with Chris (Traveling Man) to go up to Port Bay on Sunday to pick up my little boat at Hank's (L&M Marine Repair) on Sunday to do some perch fishing. Had a beautiful fall day perch fishing on the bay yesterday and wound up with a nice pile of perch too! Thanks to Coup and Hank for the pointers and an extra round of thanks to Hank for a really nice job getting my little boat set up with a 2cd battery, switch,rigger plugs and removable bilge pump for winter fishing on the FLX. Special thanks also go out to John Mann at Sodus Bay Canvas for a truly awesome job putting together a full height enclosure and covers for the boat. -Andy

I agree w/ Glen. I much prefer my Talora roller rods over my old Okuma roller rods but on the FLX the Talora rollers are kind of overkill so I run my fast action 7' Talora med rigger rods w/ the twili-tips as my wire diver rigs on the FLX unless I'm running 4 riggers- then I run my 9' Eagle Claw med w/ the twili-tips to get a bit more line separation. The 8' Talora roller rod is an awesome tool for handling tackle busting 30+lb Kings but I think these rods are really a bit stiff for FLX lakers & LLs. -Andy

Happy Birthday Clarke! -Andy

Lakers tend to be negative to neutral thru spawn & post spawn.LLs & BTs will have more days when they are active in spawn and typically much more active post spawn. Bows are the most consistently active fall species since repro is not a factor for them now. As the water continues to cool & mix these fish will be increasingly spread throughout the water column. The most consistent fishing will resume in late Dec /Jan but there should be some excellent bite days here & there in Nov, especially for the Atlantics. -Andy

I need a bigger bucket for my bucket list! Looks like a great time-thanx for the post.-Andy

Sounds like a heck of a good time, nice going! -Andy

My condolences to you and your family Jerry. -Andy

Damn, those are some expensive boards! I would hope they would hold up. Not sure how the regular originals are priced now but I paid about $250 for mine 3 years ago. I use them pretty much every time I fish out of my Islander except when things get crowded on the staging Kings. Like all things in life it's the value you get for the money you spend that counts. The Auroralites have been completely issue free boards for both multiple flat lines as well as copper & core. They stay much further ahead and in line with the boat than my Otters which enables me to get flat lines redeployed quickly and when a fish hits a junk line the hook up is solid and the release is crisp and they stow very easy folded up. -Andy