We've been running long leads with regular divers for years. Just add two church clips on your diver and your done. Last year we were down 200 feet with our divers and running a 50 foot lead between our diver and flasher, no hand lining involved with church clips
I have used all speed and temp units. Fishhawk is a great unit for downrigger down speed, temperature and depth. If you want down temp and depth on your lures then Smart Troll is the way to go.
Down temp is very important, I would suggest looking at smarttroll.com and get some probes for your divers that give you live feedback. Water changes as you are in motion so live feedback is a must.
These tests they were on Lake O in 400 FOW with no current. This same setup in 4 directions and the results were the same. A bow mount electric motor was used to fine tune the speed because it is very important to have the exact same speed with no variance, bags were deployed. Tests were done on a calm day. Marked the wire in 100 foot measured intervals from a spooling machine. The diver did not have a ring and was a #1 or 107mm equivilant. Divers were run with a 4 inch spoon. Running a dodger then the depth will be far less. As an example, once we were running a rig on one side of the boat with a mag diver plus spoon and it was running 81 feet down, on the other side of the boat the exact same setup with a flasher and it was 56 feet down. Both had the exact same amount of measured line out. 30lb power pro and 30lb wire reach the exact same depth with a diver, 50lb power pro does not achieve even close to the same depth.
Any variance in speed or direction can cause dramatically different results.
These are numbers have been recorded using very regimented tests.
We have done some tests with #1 (107mm)wire divers on #3 settings and here are the results.
Wire Diver 2mph 2.2mph 2.5mph 3mph #3 setting depth depth depth depth 100' line out 36 34 32 28 200' line out 56 54 53 49 300' line out 60 58 57
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100' line out, 2mph depth 36', 2.2mph depth 34' 2.5mph depth 32' 3mph depth 28'
200' line out 2mph depth 56', 2.2mph depth 54' 2.5mph depth 53' 3mph depth 49'
300' line out 2mph depth 60' 2.2mph depth 58' 2.5mph depth 57' 3mph depth 53'
All depths were verified with Smart troll that shows live feedback of depth and temp at the lure.
We have done some tests with wire divers on #3 settings and here are the results.
Wire Diver 2mph 2.2mph 2.5mph 3mph #3 setting depth depth depth depth 100' line out 36 34 32 28 200' line out 56 54 53 49 300' line out 60 58 57 53
After collecting alot of data from our customers, we had found that 50% have great success with the Torpedo Speed and Temperature cable and 50% could not get it to work. After further investigation, it was discovered that the successful customers did not crimp the cable when initially attaching the cable to the downrigger spool while the other 50% did crimp. Excessive force when crimping the cable causes the stainless steel to compromise the nylon coating surrounding the copper wire and the stainless wire to come in contact with the copper wire, causing a short.
All packaging now states not to crimp the Torpedo Speed and Temp cable at any juncture.
Thank you for your assistance.
Matthew
We ran the smart troll probe on Copper and it didn't move at all once it was at trolling depth, dipsies and torpedo's moved alot but leadcore and copper stayed at the same depth