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tooth paste will polish them up too. if they are painted it will hurt the paint since you are polishing. Suttons and the like should be fine. Spike

How far out did you need to go to find that depth of water? Seems like a calm week, maybe things will stabilize again? Might try Oswego for the first time, I guess it dropps quicker over there. Spike

Wondering how the fishing is out of North Sandy pond. I looked at a bathy map and saw it doesn't drop off as sharp as off Oswego and other ports to the west. How far out do you need to go this time of year to find deeper water where the kings are hanging? I know as the year moves on they will start to move in but I hope to get out in the next couple weeks and was wondering how far offshore you need to get to find fish. Anyone from Sandy pond post reports? I have only seen a few and up until today thought hte Sandy creek reports were from Sandy pond, LOL. Thanks in advance, Spike

So these reprots out of Sandy creek are not from north of the salmon river, lol. I thought they were. Is anyone on here reporting out of sandy pond? Thanks, Spike

I bought some flies. They said thread the line in the back of the fly.....What end is the back?? I have Howies and Atomik. The howie has thread like on the head of a fly, I assume that is the back end? The atomik look symetrical but the flies have the end the material comes out, I assume that faces forward and the material plumbs back???? I'm all geared up and ready to head out, just need to pick a date. Oh yeah one more? . I spooled up with 30lb test. If I was to target browns would the 30lb test be no good? I'm thinking not because the 30lb is to keep flys off the line. So what leader should I run for Kings?, Browns?, or steelhead?. Not that I could specificlly target one or the other just yet, lol. How about lures? I have the kings worked out but what would the browns be hitting? Top guns or anything like that? Thanks, Spike.

When do you guys start ruinning J-plugs? Thanks, Spike

The wind from the east fish bite least and wind from the west fish bite best has nothing to do with Lake Ontario. It has to do with a low the winds spin CCW and a high they spin CW. Fish bite better on a high or rising barometer. bite least on a falling or low barometer. Generally speaking of coarse. The Blue fish love an east wind. Spike

Thanks for the info. It's tough going somewhere you don't know about. I used to go around the salmon river area but never stayed up on Sandy. We all know what internet pictures can do for a place. thanks again. Spike

Anyone have an opinion on this place? Thinking of heading there for a short vacation, not sure how it is. How are the docks? Facilities and all that pertanant stuff? How about Wigwam? Or Green marine? Thanks, Spike

Thanks for the heads up. I'll go with the adp47lc's or the sg47lc's. I'll use one old dipsey rod and buy one new one. Buy four new rigger rods and use the reels I have. ( I have some shimano tritons and some penn 320's I can put on the rigger rods. I have a bunch of the 320's from striper chartering and never thought to use them on the riggers. I really don't need the line counters on them right now and it will save me some cash on the get go. Don't want to go broke all at once, not for a couple trips out a year. Next year I can re-rig with LC's for when I go spring fishing and using boards. Thanks everyone you cleared my head. Spike

Well that is interesting. I have an old great lakes special dipsey rod and from what you guys are saying I can use that rod for wire line. That will save me the cost of a rod up front anyway. Has anyone used the magda 45 reels for wire line? I bought a couple for leadcore line reels for fishing local and I like them a lot for the money they cost. Was thinking about using them for the wire reels as well. Anybody have any experience with them? thanks, Spike

So It doesn''t seem to be a difference between wire dipsey and regualr dipsey guides. Is this correct. If it is doesn't the wire wear the guides out quickly? Thanks, Spike

OK so I am ready to buy two wire dipsey set ups and two downrigger set ups to replace my old ones. Sounds like the Daiwa heartlland rods are prefered and the Ugly stix's are ok too. Anyway I'm looking online since I don't live in Ontario fishing central and all the wire set ups I see say rollor guides. Is there a difference between a wire dipsey set up and a regular dipsey rod? I thought htere must be but I haven't seen it spelled out here. People just refer to rods as dipsey or downrigger rods. The wire rods we use for salt water have all carbide guides. But we use monel or solid SS wire, not stranded so maybe there is a difference. Anyway if someone could straighten me out on what the heck I should be ordering I'd appreciate it. I want two wireline dipsey diver rods and reels. Two downrigger rods and reels. I will be running 30lb ande on the downrigger rods to avoid the dreaded (yet to be seen) fleas. Thanks, I'm so confused.............. Spike

When I used sliders I made sure the slider swivel was smaller than the swivel on the main line. If they were the same size there was a chance the slider could pass the main line swivel. So make certain that can't happen. Spike

I had two similiar experience in the past two months. First was with Lund boats. I had purchased a boat from maple Bay marine in Michigan, I live in NH but the price was right. Thrown in the deal was two downrigger mounts. The salesmen told me I needed to get the mounting hardware for the mounts. After I got home with the boat I called Lund to order the mounting hardware. This was two weeks before our local tournamnet. Lund informed me that I should have gotten the hardware with the brackets and they would contact Maple Bay and have them ship me the hardware or they would ship it to me. either way I was going to get hardware. I waited a week. Now one week away from tourney time I called Lund again. They called Maple Bay and then called me back to tell me the parts had been shipped out. I asked for a tracking number and they told me Maple Bay would have that info. I asked if they could find it out because everytime I call Maple Bay I can't seem to get in touch with the salesmen and emails are un-answered. Long story short I asked them to overnight me the hardware. They told me Maple had overnighted the hardware so they wouldn't. i asked if I could buy it from them and have them over night it to m,e. they refused saying they only sell thru their dealers. WTF help a guy out will ya! Then two days before the tourney I was still hardwareless. I went out and bought berts tracks and problems solved. wife called Saturday of the tourney and said hardware arrived in normal mail! LIARS!!!!!!!! Next instance I paid off my mortgage. tax money in escrow taxes due July 1. I call motgagee and ask if they are paying my taxes. They say no they will disperse my escrow befor ehten. That was June 15th. Wait wait wait. Call a week later and was told escrow was sent out the 23rd. Wait wait wait. Call again. I have no escrow check. Told they couldn't re issue until a month had passed. Then the guy asks me if my address is still blah blah blah California. I say excuse me did you say California? where the heck di you get that addy from? No wonder I don't have my check. Ask to speak to his boss. Tell him I want my money asap as I have taxes due in two days, overnight me the money. call the next day and told monety was overnighted. Call the next three days same answer no results. I finally threaten to call the cops on them for stealing my money. Check shows up next day in regular mail, not overnighted! I was late on my taxes, first time in my life. Lessons learned: Customer service is dead. Don't ever count on it again from anyone! Oh and Overnight means when ever we get around to it and what ever method we choose.. Spike

Be patient, you only gave it a little over 24 hrs for a reply. Most of these guys were fishing hard at the tourney all weekend. I'm sure they didn't run home and log in, then again I could be wrong. I do know responses like this wont get you anywhere. If no body answers assume they had nothing to say and move on. That is what I have done with my unanswered posts. Spike As an aside I haven't used a FF on the lake yet. I had a Sitex cvs-209 on my previous ocean boat and loved it. I also had a stand alone Raymarine c70 chart plotter, loved it also. I now own a lake boat as I sold the ocean boat. With little space for electronics I went with the lowrance 535 or something like that. My opinion is I should have stayed with the raymarine. Too many menu's and buttons to push to get anything done on the lowrance. If I just want to lower my range I have to open a menu, sub menu and scoll down the move the cursor to the range I want. Good units have a range in and out button, one press gets the job done. That is just my opinion. I wish I had spent the extra money now. I like the unit for its FF but it is the menu's that kill it.

Any reccomendations on where I can get a wire combo(1000 feet of wire right?) ready to go? Online or in the Sandy pond area, when I get out there. Thanks, Spike

I'm trying to schedule in two trips to Ontario. I was wondering what would be a good time line. I have fished as early as Aug 11th on a charter where we had one king hit and the rest were browns and lakers. The following year in my own boat I fished the mid Aug. and did quite well. I also fished every weekend in Sept. and did well when we got out. Do you find it less or more likely to get out on the lake at a particular time of year? Or is it like the ocean can be good or bad depending on the weather pattern? I am looking to get out mid week a Wed- Fri fish and head home Sat. That way I hope to avoid most of the crowds. Toward peek season anyway. I read thru last years reports and couldn't get a feel for what was going on. Seemed to lull a bit in Aug. I'd like to get out the week of the 25th but have already commited to the Martha's Vinyard Top Gun tournament. So I'm thinking a week or two before or the week after as a target time frame for the first trip. Any opinions or help is appreciated. Spike

OK I use Champlain releases for my lower release. I just added a Cannon Speed and temp probe. How can I rig this Chamberlain release while using the Probe? Spike

This is better than overheating the blamk which will ruin the rod and you'll end up cutting it back to save it. Todays rods aren't made the old tried and true with the heat glue tip tops. They all use epoxy now and some are near impossible to remove. I just trim them back and remove any fancy wrap that is before the tip. I do reinstall my new tips with ferrule glue(heat type). Spike

Now that is funny! Spike

Yeah I had always put the line in like the diagram on the release shows. If I pick up more (since mine are junk now) I'll try setting them in that way and the way Ray says. In the mean time I'm going to start thinking about a way to stack Chamberlain releases too. Thanks all Spike

OK I have two downriggers. Two guys in the boat. What do you run? Stack the riggers with four rods? Three on the riggers? Or two on riggers and two on dipsy? Or what???? Same question with three guys in the boat...........??? I used to run 4 on the riggers and one dipsy back in the early 90's when I fished there. Partly because that was all I had for gear, lol. Looking to optimize my time OTW with fuel prices like they are. Any help is appr.. Thanks, Spike

I used to really like these releases and now they are out of bussiness. This past weekend fishing locally with 8lb test I noticed the line had cut a slot into the lower end of the roemar. My line broke in one instance and never released in the other due to being caught up in the slot. I never had this problem before. The realses are probably 15 or so yrs old. Do you suppose the plastic weakened and the line cut into it easier? Not sure how or why it happened. On another note I'm looking for a good stacker. I have used the Chamberlan release for the lower one and like it so far. I have a scotty with the longline clip that attaches to the cable and like that as well. However I wonder how long the longline clip can ride up and up the cable on retrieve without hurting the cable or the clip. It is tough to hit the auto up and then try to stop it when the stacker arrives, sometimes your just too busy. Also noticed scotty makes one with two clips, one for your line and one on the cable. what are the advanatges disadvantages of that set up? I would think the clip to the cable would wear when retrieved and sliding. Maybe I'm supposed to stop the rigger on retrieve at the stacker spot, but the roemar always allowed you to not worry about that. thanks, Spike

Been a while since I previously posted and I'll be back out to the lake soon. When I fished before the fish shaped weights were popular. I still have 2 of them. I have read about torpedo and pancake weights. Just wondering what is most effective today. So what are you using? Style, weight and why? Thanks, Spike