K Gonefishin

Do you guys pull fish on purple spin docs/flies and spoons? and when do you run them, deep shallow early late. I don't have a problem catching fish most times but had a converation with a friend who fishes out of the oak and he said he does great on purple based flies and spoons and said he pulls a ton of fish and big matures early and late on spooked up spoons. Maybe I don't run them enough (confidence thing) I don't want to miss out. I have the gear just don't soak it much.

What is your take on PURPLE baits? I did just buy a purple nuke doctor haven't ran it yet though.

How are you connecting the flies to the spin docs?

Run them 5-10 from the ball in 45-55 degree water.

Speeds 2.2-3.2

Leader length sounds good.

Just from memory walleye fishing. 3oz at 40 back at 1.0 mph is 25 down 62 back at 1.0 mph is 38 down. I'm with Gene you were probably nowhere near bottom. Lengthen your leads a little bit as well.

Here is a chart this is at 1.5 mph with 10 pound mono food for though. Lead is EXTREMELY speed dependend. Look how much blow back we get even with 8-15 pound rigger balls at over 2.0 mph. think about a puny little few oz of lead.

How much line are you letting out? You said 2-3oz shade inline. Does this mean 2 3oz weights or 1 3oz weights?

It's right at the top of the Extended Glow & Target Tip Spoons page on the DW Site. I have the mag version of it. It has yet to pull a fish

Nice fish, great descriptive action report.

The one Atlantic we caught a couple weeks ago faught like a maniac, sort of like a steelie but way cooler.

Call Malin

Side and down imaging is only effective and only meant to be ran and read at speeds of under 5mph to get a good picture. I know some guys that have it and in there opinon it's not worth it, good for inland lakes and rivers but for open water fishing/trollers, waste of money. Sponsored walleye pro's have told me so. Save your money.

I think alot of guys get tangles because they let them out to fast and don't thumb them out slow enough when letting out the outside diver. Wwhen setting your outside (typically 3 or 3 1/2) make sure the dipsey is planning out slowing and you actually see it moving out to the side as well as hold the rod to the outside of your number 1 or 1 1/2 setting diver. I feel once 50 ft of line is out it should be far enough away from your inside diver that it won't get tangled this is usually around 50 back for the remaining amount of line I engage the reel and let a loose drag slip out the rest while keeping an eye on the counter slower is better. You may also want to take your inside rod holder and turn it in one or two clicks and use a longer rod on your outside rod as well and keep your outside divers rod holder up a notch or two compared to your inside. I used two wires all weekend and always use 2 braided diver walleye fishing and never tangle by following this approach. Follow what the other guys said as well.

He has the dual beam no side imaging, it's somewhat useless on the great lakes, fun to look at but doesn't help catch more fish.

Line might be bad. How old is it?

Never buy line from a shop that has ancient line sitting around and replace mono every year it's cheap enough to do so.

I run 30 pound Maxima and 30 pound is thick line, I always spit on my knots (to reduce heat friction) and clinch them down to my sampos with a pair of pliers and leave a 1/8 inch tag end so when a big fish starts ripping the tag end does't pull through the knot and causes it to unbuckle as it tightens. I had a monster take my whole rig one time due to this (left with a curled knot) so I alway leave a little extra hangin because that fish will tighten that knot up after an intial tie.

Billy is in Florida with the Cannon/Hummingbird guys accorinding to his tweets. My buddy has a 898 and hasn't had any problems been running it since May and he fishes ALOT. It very well could be the software and how it interacts with the transducers.

58Johnson you should not lose bottom...ever.

A couple pics from the trip.

I need to do some real sweet talking to the woman so I can make another trip up myself, heck I'll even take her if I can go again...got my bro's wedding this weekend and another one later this month. If the weather holds the weekend after labor day might work if I go I'm taking a day off and making it worth my while. Let us know how you do. I'll be dreaming of kings while catching them

I did a guy get 2 big fish sunday morning early 100 down over 110. He was targeting them only looking for a big bite. I took one over 20 a couple weeks ago when I was up which was nice to get one early..my problem now is a couple weddings and time with the lady might be keeping me away from the O till spring maybe weekend after labor day

Fishing Report

Your Name / Boat Name:

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TRIP OVERVIEW

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Date(s):

Time on Water:

Weather/Temp:

Wind Speed/Direction:

Waves:

Surface Temp:

Location:

LAT/LONG (GPS Cords):

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FISHING RESULTS

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Total Hits: alot

Total Boated: alot

Species Breakdown: 8 kings lost count of steel but between 35-40

Hot Lure: Peerless Gators Chartruse and green

Trolling Speed: Down Speed: 2.75 at ball

Boat Depth:

Lure Depth: Target offshore 35-55

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SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS

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Fished off Olcott saturday and sunday, saturday we started in 275 and pointed in north ran into fish at the 27.5 and found a nice pocket of fish 2 miles long about 1 mile around the 28.5 to the 30 line somewhere about the 45 west, 50 degree water was around 45 down. We killed the steelhead boating more than we could count kept some that were bleading and hooked deep most on fly's had around 7 fish around 10 pounds or so maybe a couple pushing 11-12 and many in the 7-9 range, fished Peerless Gators off riggers with Spin Docs and ATM fly's off our inside wires and spoons on our outside wires, earlier in the day the inside wires were the only ones firing the outside ones completely dead then later in the day the insides went dead and outsides fired really well (weird) so many differnt fly's and spin docs worked for steelies I don't know which one was best but without a doubt the Peerless gator spoons were best on the probe rigger taking 5 kings to 15 pound all 1 and 2 year old fish, second biggest was 11 pounds. Went out for an evening bite looking for a mature inside waters 65-110, couldn't find one, took a 5 pound king and a couple skips called it early after a long day. Juding by Shad's report we should have kept one rigger and one wire in the ice water for more kings but with the solid action we wheren't complaining. Ohh well.

Sunday- bumpy ride out with red sky in the morning and went to the same spot- first fish hit a nice steelie Green Crinkle ATM on a Green Spin Doc taped out at over 30 inches with a hook jaw real pink sides nice fish then took a 16 pound king on a Green Dot Spinny with a Bill V Green Ghost Siggs Fly off a rigger parked at 42, fish was rediculous strong for only being a 16 though I had a mature but came up short great fight. Trolled in the trough all the way back in and took another smaller king and a few more nice steelies box had 8 at the cleaners but action died at the 26 line, tough trolling in the stiff waves and wind. Pulled rods at noon and left home for Cleveland hopefully I can make it back when more matures are around

Good Times.

http://www.iwindsurf.com/windandwhere.i ... ast+Graphs

I have my favorite saved for my location down here on Erie but everyone can find there own spots if you click around.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.ph ... ype=marine

Move the map cursor around and it give you the forcast for that specific area.

I use weather bug and windfinder, windfinder finds the closest wind stations by you with up to date forcast and conditions. I'll check out the one you mentioned. thx.

Downloading now, screenshots look good.

ON you'll get more depth and better planing of the diver.

MT Dew

White on White Glow

Green Dot

Something Chrome- 42nd or NKB

Boy Blue has it's days too.

Hammer

Green Crinkle

B-Fly

Mirage

If I can't pull fish on at least 2 of these I'm going home or the bar

I know these are on many guys lists but rightly so they consitantly pull fish, these work for me early july through labor day deep offshore and inside waters.

Anybody been out the last couple of days? fishing saturday and sunday looking for a starting point?

Looking for kings.

Thanks

Kevin

Hagen's has great deals on hooks.

I have a bunch of squids and dodgers but never really run them. How long of leaders do you guys find works best?

Mark you need a boat first