rolmops

I always thought that Irondequoit Creek only has brown trout, steel head and some rainbow stocking,but never any salmon. Why would any salmon come to Irondequoit creek?

So I tried some cut bait and I got the fight of my life... With an effing sea gull

The only thing that I would do different is the stabilizer being used. I would use "seafoam" stabilizer because this stuff also cleans out the carburetors and injectors.

I tried both. Otter boats with single keels and Riviera triple boards. The riviera boats pull harder when you are running in a straight line in quiet water (Finger Lakes), but when there are currents or when you have to make a turn,the otter boats work way better.I have not run either of them in waves that top 3 foot,but the Otter boats are way more stable in the 3 footers. It seems to me that the main problem with the Riviera and similar boards is that they are way to high up in the water, because of that, they loose a lot of their effective pulling surface.The Otter boat's keel is completely submerged and that makes it so effective.

According to the articles that I have read, it is because Lake Michigan is in a colder temperature zone, which makes for a shorter feeding/growth season. Add to that the quaga mussel that is making a big dent in the food supply for minnows and shad and you end up with smaller fish.

Rolmops; Did the boat have a blue canvas? Yes. Actually a few boats broke away from the pack around that time and they all hauled @$$ to make it to the 500 FOW area. Last week I caught a steelhead with the CRAA tag in 300 feet of water in that area. I hope that they can figure out some of the migration patterns. It is good to hear that you did well there

There are a few guys on this board with scuba gear.You may want to ask if anybody is willing to check the crib and return your probe.

So it was you who came roaring by on your way out

============== ====== =============== Total Hits: 17 Total Boated:9 Species Breakdown:Coho,laker, king Hot Lure: Trolling Speed: 2.5 Down Speed: 2.5 Boat Depth: 130/250 Lure Depth: variable ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS ==================== After leaving I-Bay towards the Genny mouth I realized that it would be combat fishing over there so I went to Longline's stomping grounds in front of Russel power station a few miles out. It took a while to get away from the cold water that started at 12 feet but I found some nice breaks where 50 degrees was anywhere between 45 and 80 feet so that is where I set up. A few boats that had been fishing farther inside and one that was quite close to me in the 50 to 70 foot range went way out to what I think must have been 500 feet ,but I just did 8 knots on the way out there when I found lots of fish and bait. I set up there with spin doctors and spoons.The spoons were useless,but the spin doctors and flies were busy all the time specially on the dipsy divers which gave me a lot of big hits , a few seconds of fighting but they mostly popped loose. ( one of these days I will stop using snubbers) On a 10 color leadcore with a coho setup I caught the only king of the day, it was about 8 inches long, but very feisty. I was thinking that I probably fed that one a lot of pellets when it was in the cage.All 7 cohos all came on spin doctors and flies and so did the the laker. At the end of the day the DEC people were at the the I-Bay entrance and they weighed the 2 Cohos that I brought back ) One was 15 and the other 14 pounds. A very nice day out indeed. The DEC guys told me that they are hiring people again, mostly to work in the hatcheries Cornelis.

I run a 19 foot Sylvan.Concerning the Otterboats running like crap,try to tie the knot in a slightly different spot so the angle of the otter boat keel pulls a bit more outward. I sometimes run 500 copper and 10 colors leadcore on each side and they still work great. As for tiller motor, I run a 1964 9.5 evinrude kicker ,but I changed it to remote control,which you can do to almost any tiller outboard. Respectfully, Cornelis.

When I go solo (almost all the time) I try to put out the otter boats and the dipsy diver rods (both) but often without any spoons or flies. I do this to stabilize the boat and make it run a steady course. the dipsies are empty in order to stay legal. I find that this really helps in running a straight line when I am fighting a fish or fixing a rod. Does anybody else use this or a similar technique to run a straight course?

The better swivels on the market are the Spro and the Sempra. They are smaller,but they have bearings and they are very strong for their seize. Another thing is to allow the fish to run and let himself tire a bit before bringing him in. "Setting" the hook with 30 some pounds on the other end trying to go the other way will break lines.

You should try to use a snubber,this will cushion the first impact of a hit,and you can also set the dipsy just a bit looser. What kind of swivels are you using? You remind me of what is was like for me when I first started trolling Lake Ontario.

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Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):9/3 Time on Water:06.00-16.00 Weather/Temp:hot Wind Speed/Direction:west Waves: 1 footers Surface Temp: 72 Location:In front of Slaters Creek LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: around twenty Total Boated:around twenty Species Breakdown:Kings,Steelhead,Lakers Hot Lure: Trolling Speed: 3.3 Down Speed: 2.6 Boat Depth: first 60 then 90/130 Lure Depth: 70/50/10 colors/8 colors/dipsy 210 out (2)/dipsy 180 out (2) ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS We left at six and went out to sixty feet where in spite of warm water there were plenty of marks.Let out the first dipsy and as we let the second dipsy out the first took a big hit which we lost after about 10 minutes.Meanwhile I got the 2 riggers down and the second dipsy took a hit. this one turned out to be a good king in the twenties,another followed within 20 minutes,but then things got very quiet.We went out deeper,around 90 fow and set up there.The thermocline was at fifty feet and when we found our break line it went down to about 70. There the steelhead were just hitting all the time all the way out to 140 feet,at which point we got another king.Later we picked up a few lakers. Mostly we were just having a great time with the steel head. Cornelis ====================

If it is lakers that you are after,you will do well with leadcore. The trick is in trolling live mooneyes (sawbellies) at speeds of 1.6 to 1.9 mph with 10 colors out. At that speed you will reach depths of close to 90 feet. just speed up and slow down in roughly that range.It has always worked for me. Around this time of year they are probably in around a hundred feet of water.

The torpedo wire that I got a little while ago had one very good spool,but another one had a few problems.I contacted the sales rep and he was genuinely interested in what exactly the problem was. He traced it back to a combination of a power failure and a new girl working the machine at the same time. He also gave me another spool to replace the one that had some problems. The torpedo people stand behind their product. Cornelis.

The only thing that comes to mind is the double planers that you use.Because of the added weight they run a bit deeper and in addition they pull more than twice as hard. I have seen double boards that had the tie rope coming through small holes in the board but tied to the bolts of the planer board. http://www.glanglerforum.com/forum/show ... ifications The damage in the picture may have been because of transport bouncing.

With all due respect to your opinions,the RFA is not exactly a sports fisherman organisation.It is much more a front of commercial fishing interests which is using the terms "sports and recreational" as a front to hide behind while protecting industrial interests and destroying what is left over of our natural fishing stocks in the name of profit. If large corporations like Walmart donate money to organizations that try to save some of our fishing stocks for our children (much like the DEC does in NY) it can only be applauded. So please do not judge the gift too quickly. Destroying what is left over after all the over fishing and pollution is not smart. Trying to save it is smart. Here is something that I would like to add. California is trying a system that has proven itself in Polynesia for hundreds of years. By closing certain areas for extended time periods,the stocks there completely rebound and then they start spilling over in the surrounding areas where the stocks also rebound. In Polynesia,which is very dependent on its fishery, it was and still is one of the responsibilities of the village headman to chose which areas to open and close for fishing. This system has successfully maintained healthy stock around the islands.

try 9 to 12 feet waves

Any of you guys ever try this? http://www.onthewater.com/fishing/lake- ... ap-otw-tv/

I was there ,north and west, but a bit farther out. My boat does have a planer mast at the very tip. Were you out a bit farther and a bit more to the east? Cornelis.

Fishing Report Your Name / Boat Name:Rolmops ============== TRIP OVERVIEW ============== Date(s):8-26 Time on Water:8-12.30 Weather/Temp:70 degrees, clouded Wind Speed/Direction:about 12 knots out of the north-east Waves: early on about 2 footers, mid morning 3 footers,around noon down to 1 footers Surface Temp: 71 Location:north of the Genesee LAT/LONG (GPS Cords): =============== FISHING RESULTS =============== Total Hits: 5 Total Boated:4 Species Breakdown:lakers,kings Hot Lure: spin doctor with home made fly Trolling Speed: 2.8 Down Speed: 2.6 Boat Depth: 100 to 200 feet Lure Depth: 130 and 90,dipsies out 210 feet and 180 feet,copper out 350 ==================== SUMMARY & FURTHER DETAILS Left late this morning and started taking down temps at 6o fow. after several tries where the temperature was 71 all the way down to the bottom,things started looking up a bit in 130 feet where we found a very irregular break starting 110 down. It went between 64 and 44 with the probe at 110 down. We set up and caught a few 2 year olds and then to make my son feel better,I dropped one line down to 145 feet down and went laker hunting.Thank god for lakers.They are very dependable and we caught a very nice 15 pounder. That was it for the day. Cornelis. ====================