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I do not think that the fish actively go offshore. When the wind changes, it moves the body of water that these fish are in to another place. Like being in a car. You don't move inside the car, but the car moves you. Eastern and northern winds move these water bodies to different places than what the prevailing western winds do. Hence the temperature changes that often happen close to shore. But that mostly happens fairly close to shore. When you go far enough away from shore, These influences are much less important and the situation remains fairly constant and as such is much more predictable. Brown trout like to stay closer to their source river or creek and they will active swim back to where they feel "at home" As to how far you should go out, just go and usually when you see the thermocline come higher and stay constant you will start seeing baitfish and the salmon will be there. That could be at 400 feet or 600 feet. its mostly a quessing game with some pointers to help you along. If all else fails, follow the charter boats and the captains will do the guessing for you.

One very important thing happened. A wave height /water temperature buoy about half a mile out of Oswego. While it always was a guessing game about wave height and wave period, Now there is on the spot real time info. So now, we can decide at home before we load up and go only to find out that the weather man was wrong about wave height.. This additional info source is great View the latest observations near Atlantic Potential Tropical Cyclone Four and East Pacific Hurricane Carlotta. Station 45215 - Oswego, NY (274) Information submitted by Scripps Institution of Oceanography Waverider Buoy 43.501 N 76.539 W (43°30'3" N 76°32'19" W) Air temp height: 0 m above site elevation Sea temp depth: 0.46 m below water line Water depth: 40 m Latest NWS Marine Forecast Search And Rescue (SAR) Data Meteorological Observations from Nearby Stations and Ships Map Type: Zoom in Zoom out CHS, Esri, GEBCO, Garmin, NaturalVue | CHS, Esri, GEBCO, Garmin, NGS Powered by Esri Large icon indicates selected station. Stations with recent data Stations with no data in last 8 hours (24 hours for tsunami stations) Disclaimer Refresh page every 10 minutes: Conditions at 45215 as of (12:56 pm EDT) 1656 GMT on 08/02/2024: Unit of Measure: Time Zone: Click on the graph icon in the table below to see a time series plot of the last five days of that observation. Wave Height (WVHT): 0.3 ft Average Period (APD): 2.3 sec Air Temperature (ATMP): 77.5 °F Water Temperature (WTMP): 77.2 °F Previous observations TIME (EDT) WDIR WSPD kts GST kts WVHT ft DPD sec APD sec MWD PRES in PTDY in ATMP °F WTMP °F DEWP °F SAL psu VIS nmi TIDE ft 2024-08-02 12:26 pm - - - - - - - - - 77.4 77.2 - - - - 2024-08-02 11:56 am - - - 0.3 - 2.5 - - - 76.8 77.2 - - - - 2024-08-02 11:26 am - - - - - - - - - 75.9 77.4 - - - - 2024-08-02 10:56 am - - - - - - - - - 75.9 77.0 - - - - 2024-08-02 09:56 am - - - 0.3 - 2.2 - - - 75.4 76.8 - - - - 2024-08-02 09:26 am - - - 0.3 - 2.3 - - - - 76.6 - - - - 2024-08-02 08:56 am - - - 0.3 - 2.3 - - - 75.2 76.3 - - - - 2024-08-02 08:26 am - - - 0.3 - 2.5 - - - 74.1 76.3 - - - - 2024-08-02 07:56 am - - - - - - - - - 74.1 76.3 - - - - 2024-08-02 07:26 am - - - - - - - - - 74.3 76.3 - - - - 2024-08-02 06:56 am - - - - - - - - - 73.9 76.3 - - - - 2024-08-02 06:26 am - - - - - - - - - 73.8 76.3 - - - - 2024-08-02 05:56 am - - - 0.7 - 2.2 - - - 73.6 76.3 - - - - 2024-08-02 05:26 am - - - - - - - - - 73.8 76.5 - - - - 2024-08-02 04:56 am - - - - - - - - - 74.1 76.6 - - - - 2024-08-02 04:26 am - - - 0.3 - 2.4 - - - 74.7 76.8 - - - - 2024-08-02 03:56 am - - - 0.3 - 2.4 - - - 74.5 77.0 - - - - 2024-08-02 03:26 am - - - 0.3 - 2.4 - - - 74.5 77.0 - - - - 2024-08-02 02:56 am - - - 0.3 - 2.4 - - - 75.6 77.2 - - - - 2024-08-02 02:26 am - - - 0.3 - 2.4 - - - 74.7 77.2 - - - - 2024-08-02 01:26 am - - - 0.3 - 2.5 - - - 74.8 77.4 - - - - 2024-08-02 12:56 am - - - 0.3 - 2.5 - - - 74.5 77.4 - - - - 2024-08-02 12:26 am - - - 0.3 - 2.6 - - - 74.8 77.4 - - - - 2024-08-01 11:26 pm - - - 0.3 - 2.6 - - - 76.5 77.5 - - - - 2024-08-01 10:56 pm - - - 0.3 - 2.7 - - - 76.1 77.5 - - - - 2024-08-01 09:56 pm - - - 0.3 - 2.7 - - - 76.5 77.7 - - - - 2024-08-01 09:26 pm - - - 0.3 - 2.7 - - - 76.8 77.9 - - - - 2024-08-01 08:56 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.6 - - - 77.2 78.1 - - - - 2024-08-01 08:26 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.6 - - - 77.5 78.4 - - - - 2024-08-01 07:56 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.6 - - - 78.1 78.6 - - - - 2024-08-01 07:26 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.7 - - - 78.4 79.0 - - - - 2024-08-01 06:56 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.7 - - - 78.8 79.2 - - - - 2024-08-01 06:26 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.7 - - - 79.2 79.3 - - - - 2024-08-01 05:56 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.6 - - - - 79.2 - - - - 2024-08-01 05:26 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.6 - - - - 78.8 - - - - 2024-08-01 04:56 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.6 - - - - 77.9 - - - - 2024-08-01 04:26 pm - - - 0.7 - 2.6 - - - 78.1 78.4 - - - - 2024-08-01 03:56 pm - - - 1.0 3 2.6 WSW - - 77.5 77.5 - - - - 2024-08-01 03:26 pm - - - 1.0 3 2.6 WSW - - 77.2 77.7 - - - - 2024-08-01 02:56 pm - - - 1.0 3 2.6 WSW - - 76.8 77.4 - - - - 2024-08-01 02:26 pm - - - 1.0 3 2.6 WSW - - 76.6 76.8 - - - - 2024-08-01 01:56 pm - - - 1.0 3 2.6 WSW - - 76.3 76.8 - - - - 2024-08-01 01:26 pm - - - 1.0 3 2.7 WSW - - 75.9 76.5 - - - - 2024-08-01 12:56 pm - - - 1.3 3 2.7 WSW - - 75.7 75.9 - - - - Detailed Wave Summary for 45215 as of (12:56 pm EDT) 1656 GMT on 08/02/2024: These wave data are displayed in rounded times. Unit of Measure: Time Zone: Click on the graph icon in the table below to see a time series plot of the last five days of that observation. Significant Wave Height (WVHT): 0.3 ft Swell Height (SwH): 0.0 ft Swell Period (SwP): 25.0 sec Swell Direction (SwD): SSE Wind Wave Height (WWH): 0.3 ft Wind Wave Period (WWP): 2.0 sec Wind Wave Direction (WWD): E Average Wave Period (APD): 2.3 sec Previous observations TIME (EDT) WVHT ft SwH ft SwP sec SwD WWH ft WWP sec WWD STEEPNESS APD sec 2024-08-02 11:56 am 0.3 0.0 22.2 WNW 0.3 2.1 SW N/A 2.5 2024-08-02 09:56 am 0.3 0.0 22.2 N 0.3 2.1 WNW N/A 2.2 2024-08-02 09:26 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 NW 0.3 2.2 WSW N/A 2.3 2024-08-02 08:56 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 WSW 0.3 2.2 SW N/A 2.3 2024-08-02 08:26 am 0.3 0.0 22.2 NNW 0.3 4.0 W N/A 2.5 2024-08-02 05:56 am 0.7 0.0 25.0 SSE 0.7 2.3 S N/A 2.2 2024-08-02 04:26 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 ESE 0.3 2.3 WNW N/A 2.4 2024-08-02 03:56 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 SE 0.3 2.2 WNW N/A 2.4 2024-08-02 03:26 am 0.3 0.0 28.6 E 0.3 2.3 WNW N/A 2.4 2024-08-02 02:56 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 SW 0.3 2.5 WNW N/A 2.4 2024-08-02 02:26 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 ENE 0.3 2.4 W N/A 2.4 2024-08-02 01:26 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 WNW 0.3 2.6 W N/A 2.5 2024-08-02 12:56 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 S 0.3 2.9 W N/A 2.5 2024-08-02 12:26 am 0.3 0.0 25.0 SW 0.3 2.9 W N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 11:26 pm 0.3 0.0 22.2 SW 0.3 2.9 W N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 10:56 pm 0.3 0.0 25.0 W 0.3 2.9 W N/A 2.7 2024-08-01 09:56 pm 0.3 0.0 22.2 W 0.3 2.9 WSW N/A 2.7 2024-08-01 09:26 pm 0.3 0.0 25.0 NNW 0.3 3.0 WSW N/A 2.7 2024-08-01 08:56 pm 0.3 0.0 25.0 WNW 0.3 2.9 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 08:26 pm 0.7 0.0 25.0 ESE 0.7 2.9 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 07:56 pm 0.3 0.0 25.0 NNW 0.3 2.6 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 07:26 pm 0.7 0.0 22.2 NW 0.7 2.9 W N/A 2.7 2024-08-01 06:56 pm 0.7 0.0 25.0 NNW 0.7 2.9 W N/A 2.7 2024-08-01 06:26 pm 0.7 0.0 28.6 SSE 0.7 2.9 WSW N/A 2.7 2024-08-01 05:56 pm 0.7 0.0 25.0 W 0.7 2.6 W N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 05:26 pm 0.7 0.0 20.0 WSW 0.7 3.0 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 04:56 pm 0.7 0.0 25.0 W 0.7 3.2 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 04:26 pm 0.7 0.0 25.0 WNW 0.7 3.0 W N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 03:56 pm 0.7 0.0 22.2 W 0.7 2.9 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 03:26 pm 1.0 0.0 22.2 W 1.0 2.9 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 02:56 pm 1.0 0.0 25.0 WSW 1.0 3.0 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 02:26 pm 1.0 0.0 28.6 W 1.0 3.1 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 01:56 pm 1.0 0.0 25.0 WSW 1.0 3.1 WSW N/A 2.6 2024-08-01 01:26 pm 1.0 0.0 25.0 WSW 1.0 3.2 WSW N/A 2.7 2024-08-01 12:56 pm 1.3 0.0 25.0 SW 1.3 3.1 WSW N/A 2.7 Plot of wave energy versus frequency (and period) Description of Measurements Links which are specific to this station are listed below: Real Time Data in tabular form for the last forty-five days. Historical Data & Climatic Summaries for quality controlled data for prior months and year .

Mayers Marina owns a series of properties along the road and during the summer Bill used to direct the trailer owners to available spaces along the road. He just does not have the energy he once had and he no longer does that, but there usually are spaces open .

Thank you very much for your well thought out contribution to this thread. It shows how positive your thinking is and how deeply intelligent you obviously are. As for Allison and Bill, yes they are good people. I have been a friend of Bill for 25 years

Go shorter if you can. If you can get a hold of a some 7 foot rods you will be better of, specially on a kayak. Also you should think of jigging in a kayak instead of trolling. It is very easy to jig off a kayak and just as effective as trolling in many cases. A friend of mine caught a 150 pound goliath grouper in a kayak. He had to call s on his cell phone to come over and get that monster out of the water. VIDEO-2024-01-15-21-00-07(1).mp4

I think that the Irondequoit launch is in a class all by itself.

One of the causes (apart from a-holes) is the location of the entrance kiosk. It is right where the actual launches are situated, so every boat coming out of the entrance is right in the path of the launching boats. If the kiosk would have been at the very beginning of the entrance road with EZ-pass like photographic access and the entrance road would open onto the parking lot, people would drive through into the parking lot, prepare their boat for launch and then get in line for the launches, it would go a lot faster with less conflict. It still would not be idiot proof ,but less of a mess. On another note. How is the city launch at the Genesee River? Is it less of a mess or is it more of the same?

You will have to ask yourself a few questions such as was my boat out in the rain,or why is the water in the bow while usually the heaviest part of the boat is near the engine and water would normally travel that way. Or Where is my bilge pump, in the front or the rear? Do I have one or two bilge pumps. If the water only gathered in the front end ,does that mean that the boat is made so that water in the front cannot stream to the back? Do you test your bilge pump before you go on your way? Most boats have bilge pumps with float switches that kick in when the water level in the boat rises. Why did your float switch not turn the pump on? There may well be a loose rivet or seam that allows water in when the boat bounces in the waves. It happens a lot ,but those leaks only leak when the boat bounces around a bit. By the way, filling your boat with water while on the trailer can overload your trailer and tires to the point where you might damage your trailer

I sometimes use it during the week. It has a pay machine that accepts credit cards. The launch is fine and parking is free. If you want to go salmon fishing , you should be prepared to run a few miles to deep water. During the weekend it’s over crowded. If you launch a few miles farther west, you will be in deep water a lot faster. I live ten minutes away from Irondequoit launch, but I prefer to drive to Sandy Creek. Braddocks Bay has shallow water issues.

This sounds weird, but it works. Lysol advanced power clinging gel, yes that stuff that is used for cleaning toillets. Squirt some on there spread it out with a cloth , let it do its thing and 10 minutes later you can wipe it off together with the tie marks

They were 2 very lucky campers, but I wonder if they had done a proper pre-check before launching.

One way to slow them down is by instead of flicking the swiitch. You can just loosen the wheel a bit and that way you can decide what speed to go with. Just don't forget to tighten them up when you reach your chosen depth.

I think it is 20 feet down per hundred feet of wire.

We were at roughly the same depth but a bout a mile farther west. We ended up 9 for 12