rolmops

I remember reading an article about hatchery raised fish not having any idea what to be afraid of in the open water and because of this becoming very easy prey when they are released. I am sorry to admit that I really do not remember the source of the article, but it was about introducing potential killers within the hatchery environment and the reaction and possible learning process taking place. A few marauders were let loose in a run and they attacked, maimed and killed some fry. This caused a panic reaction not immediately but after a short period of time. As it turned out,the maimed and dying fry released a "panic" hormone in the water which alarmed the other fish. This hormone was released at the same time that the smell and pheromones of the attacking fish was in the water. After a few trial runs the small fry had the fear reaction when the attacker fish smell was released even when there were no wounded fish in the water. When the fry smelled the attacker they tried to hide. The fish that had not been exposed to actual attacks did not react to the attacker smell. Does anyone know if this technique is used by the DEC? And can we make this part of pen rearing? I can envision a few predators in a net that they cannot get out of which is lowered into the pen. The fingerlings can get in and out of this net,thus creating a controlled hunting environment within a large safe pen. This might help prepare the small fish for the "real "world. Five minutes after writing this thread I decided to try and find the article. I just googled "conditioning hatchery fish" and there are several articles about the subject.

Irondeqoit Creek had a lot of restoration work done to it in the past few years and a lot of silt has been removed thereby restoring the gravel beds. At this point I am thinking about the Brighton spot which has good access and is well protected while I am also thinking about a spot in Allison Park with good access next to the seasonal skating rink. A third place can be on Heberles stables property. I have no idea what the survival rate would be if the fish are released that far upstream with a swampy area to negotiate and with the bay to traverse as well. Nor do I know if it would be a good place for kings,although you are right about the browns and the steelies. I have never seen kings actively spawning up there although I have seen them next to the hatchery.I have seen Atlantic smolt in there. Irondeqoit Creek is about 47 miles long mostly under trees and mostly privately owned and as such quite hard to access for snaggers.

It just so happens that I am employed by the town.

Did anybody ever consider setting up a pen project higher up in a stream and having the pens in for several months? If so please give your opinion and thoughts. I am considering setting up a project in lower Irondeqoit Creek and trying to make it work like the Credit River hatchery project. ( the floating pens part ). Please toy with this idea and if you have thoughts about it please share them. Thank you ,Cornelis.

Given the choice between gluvit and the other mentioned materials I would take gluvit every day of the week. Both the gutter stuff and silicone stay on top of the material that they are applied onto while Gluvit penetrates deep inside and fills the empty spaces and leaky spots. Gluvit also has a stretchy character allowing it to stretch and flex right along with the aluminum parts without popping open.

You could have bought another rig ,but you would never have had the joy of fixing up your baby. There is huge sentimental value in fixing your boat.

You can hang a big tarp over and around the boat all way to the floor and put a space heater under the hull. That should buy you a few weeks to get it done. Just make sure to remove all fuel.

It's messy and it gets brittle

Gluvit is for preserving rotten wood and dabbing around leaky seams.

You can just use ammonia based paint for the boards. Home Depot Behr paint. If you want to pour flotation foam you should wait.

Yes it will be very different without the steam plume. We'll be fishing in front of the "old" power plant. Maybe they will pull the buoys.

Paps way works well,but there is another way which will also help you put the screws in without damaging the slot. Get an impact screw driver and a torch. Leave the kicker on the boat. Heat the screws up but not a whole lot. Take the impact driver,set it on counter clockwise and pick a bit that is as big as the slot. Set it in the slot and give the impact driver a whack with a hammer. For tightening the screw set the impact driver on clockwise. Just do not try to do these things with a screw driver that is not wide and thick enough because that's how you screw them up.

Posted Today, 6:59 PM I made a quick run out this afternoon before they close the bridge.Went east from the outlet to about 50 feet of water. At 48.3 degrees the Ibay outlet scum line was about one degree warmer than the lake water so along its edge I went. With just 2 rods. One 35 down with a superslim chickenwing with a hammered copper back and the other a Superman scorpion at 39 but trying to stay in the warmer water so it went up and down when needed. I toyed with the idea of running a stick bait on a junk line in warmer surface water but it did not sit well with my plans about this being a relaxing afternoon. I ended up with eight hits and got seven browns ranging between 3 and 10 pounds. they were all released to go spawn in wherever they choose to go. All in all a very pleasant relaxing afternoon. Rolmops

Yes it is still in. I just used it today.

I bought a rod travel case last summer in Europe. They sell a type of case that telescopes to the desired length and have room for several rods. They are a hard plastic which can survive airport porters.

I went to Tractor Supply and got one! No more dirty hands and crawling around the doghouse. Thanks again!