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The final answer is that it ended up being a second bad timer base. Meaning the one that I replaced was bad out of the box. We were camping last week, and after all of the rigamaroo of changing plugs and wires and tearing the thing apart again the problem was still persisting. It got to the point where it would only run on 2 cyl, so at that point it was very easy to diagnose. The issue was getting all of the tools together to pull the flywheel and reset the timing, etc while camping. I called the place I bought the part from and they were able to overnight me a new one at their cost, which was pretty nice. Otherwise the boat fished great, the flooring is excellent on the bare feet and it does not get too hot. Very durable except on the edges where I sealed with sealant, the spray on did not stick as well. My plan from the start was to try and find some trim for that area anyway so it doesn't bother me. For the size of the boat it is a dream to fish out of and is very functional. The electronics did what they were supposed to do. I bucketed in some water to rinse the slime off of the deck and the bilge pumps worked great as well. It is very nice having motorized downriggers and a subtroll. I did lose a downrigger ball due to a failed crimp by the previous owner. Lesson learned! Next up is pulling the motor back off this fall to paint her up.

Welcome!

to experimenting! Will we be seeing a "Nick's Lamprey Cafe" haha.

yeah it was a real challenge out there. Nobody was catching them - and the charters all headed North. Was getting a lot of strong marks, and they were all coming up to check out the rigs but could not get more than about 30% of them to hit. It was steady action, and it seemed like we did much better than the locals based on what they were saying. The surprising part was that I stuck a Mountain Dew glow crush spinny out with a tourney fly and that took most of the fish. The cowbells and spin/glows and most spoons had zero takers.

yeah it was a real challenge out there. Nobody was catching them - and the charters all headed North. Was getting a lot of strong marks, and they were all coming up to check out the rigs but could not get more than about 30% of them to hit. It was steady action, and it seemed like we did much better than the locals based on what they were saying. The surprising part was that I stuck a Mountain Dew glow crush spinny out with a tourney fly and that took most of the fish. The cowbells and spin/glows and most spoons had zero takers.

good hook!

Nice! its for sure on my bucket list. Thanks for sharing!

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Lol. Yeah that's what I get! Thanks for the encouragement though. I was out tonight and found that there was no continuity in one of my plug wires, and 6 ohms in another. I tried like heck to get a reading through them too. So I am thinking that was the issue. I went out and got new wires and it really runs a lot smoother now. Also decarbed the motor tonight and that seemed to help a little as well. Will be looking to take it out one night this week to be sure that was the issue! The motor is a dream to work on and to understand. I would buy another in a heartbeat.

of alewives?

Thats awesome. My wife gets bad motion sickness, so its very rare I can drag her out. Would be great to double dip on fishing time and Quality time!

First time out with my new setup on Sunday. I was putting everything through its paces, and found that the temp screen went blank and the speed went to zero when I turn the backlight to the head unit on. Has anyone had any issues with this? Any suggestions? It works completely fine otherwise. Also, do you guys take the 9v battery out of the probe every time you are done fishing? Thanks

Sweet! congrats on the 25 lb'er! Its always nice to have someone to steer the boat when there is a double involved.

Thank you for the info

Try running Champion QL77JC4's in it, looks like an early 80's vintage Johnson like mine, mine don't like the NGK plugs. When you had NGK's did you experience a similar issue?

Well.... Mixed emotions about today. Got up around 430 and headed to pick up my father to give her a test bath and eventually go fishing. Beautiful morning! Launched, everything went fine, no water in bilge. Headed out the channel, got to thee end, gave her the throttle and she jumped on plane faster than she ever has. I mean this thing is snappy! ... Then she completely gave out. Started back up no problem, wanted to die the more has I have it, so figured fuel issue. Checked out the screen, tank vent, bulb was hard. Plugs were wet, but had carbon - plus they are a few seasons old so decided to pull her at 630 and get plugs. Got new plugs in and back on the water by 10. Took her out, got on plane and the motor ran like a top. Made some on the fly timing tweaks to resolve some hesitation at mid range, and after that it was good. It still hesitates slightly at mid but I can live with it till this fall/winter when I can get any marine mechanic to call me back. Got to fishing around 1030 and put about an hour in. Landed two rainbows, kept one that was not going to make it. First pic is slime from the first fish for proof. Lol had to get it back in the water. Gear worked great! Sonar picking up a ball of bait fish Came in due to impending storms and half way in the motor kicks back to 2 cylinders... Now a new problem to try to fix. I'm thinking of completely re-doing all of the wiring on the motor at this point, but that means messing around with the connectors which i don't really want to do.

Its really sad. Are there known effects of what they can do to our cold water fishery?

Didn't see anything posted on this.... But these things keep getting closer..... http://content.govdelivery.com/bulletin ... DNR-496f72 Press Release The following is a joint news release issued by the Michigan and Ohio Departments of Natural Resources:   FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE July 13, 2012  Media Contacts Michigan DNR: Jim Dexter 517-373-3375, Debbie Munson Badini 906-226-1352 Ohio DNR: Rich Carter 614-565-8910, Bethany McCorkle 614-406-2011   Six Lake Erie water samples test positive for Asian carp eDNA Michigan and Ohio DNRs planning follow-up actions with partner agencies  Federal and state wildlife officials working in conjunction with academic researchers today announced six water samples taken from Sandusky and north Maumee bays tested positive for the presence of Asian carp environmental DNA in Michigan and Ohio waters.  The positive samples were among 417 taken from Lake Erie in August 2011, and more than 2,000 samples taken from the Great Lakes Basin since 2010. The Lake Erie batch was recently analyzed and test results were confirmed by eDNA researchers this week. The six positive samples represent less than 1.5 percent of the Lake Erie samples.  Four samples from Sandusky Bay, in Ohio waters, tested positive for bighead carp eDNA, while two samples from north Maumee Bay, in Michigan waters, were positive for silver carp eDNA.  In response to these findings, electro-shocking and netting began Friday in Sandusky Bay with no evidence of Asian carp found. However, additional testing and monitoring are planned by the Ohio and Michigan Departments of Natural Resources in conjunction with partner agencies.  The findings indicate the presence of genetic material left behind by the species, such as scales, excrement or mucous, but not the establishment of Asian carp in Lake Erie. Positive eDNA tests are regarded by the scientific community as an indicator of the species’ recent presence, however, positive results can occur whether the organism was alive or dead.  While the eDNA findings suggest the possible presence of the invasive species, officials have no physical evidence the fish have migrated to the Great Lakes. Prior to 2003, three individual bighead carp were collected in Lake Erie. No additional observations have been reported during the past decade.  “The results from these water samples are certainly concerning, as this marks the first time Asian carp eDNA has been detected in water samples from Lake Erie, or any of the Michigan waters intensively surveyed for the presence of invasive carp,†said Michigan DNR Fisheries Division Chief Jim Dexter. “Protecting the Great Lakes from the threat of Asian carp is critical to the health of our sport and commercial fisheries and to the quality of life in Michigan. We are actively engaged in Asian carp surveillance programs throughout the Great Lakes, including Lake St. Clair and Lake Erie, and the Department stands ready to take the necessary and appropriate actions to investigate and respond to these test results.† In response to the positive test results, officials from the Michigan and Ohio DNRs, the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and White House Council on Environmental Quality are developing a plan of action in collaboration with the eDNA research team to obtain follow-up samples and test results as quickly as possible. Test results from future water samples will dictate the nature of further response methods.  “This lake is Ohio’s greatest resource and our main objective is to keep it healthy,†said Rich Carter, Ohio DNR’s Executive Fish Management and Research Administrator. “The DNA findings have put Ohio fish and wildlife officers on high alert and marshaled our immediate action. In response to these findings, electro-shocking and netting in the identified areas of Sandusky Bay have already been completed and no Asian carp were found. Testing and monitoring will continue and we will work with Michigan and our other management partners to develop a coordinated approach to defining the status of Asian carp in Lake Erie.† Since 2010, the Michigan DNR, Ohio DNR, USFWS, University of Notre Dame, Central Michigan University and the Nature Conservancy have partnered to collect water samples from Great Lakes basin waters, including the Chicago Area Waterway System, southern Lake Michigan, western Lake Erie and tributary streams of lakes Michigan and Erie. The collaborative early-detection Asian carp surveillance program is funded by the USFWS with a federal Great Lakes Restoration Initiative grant, administered under the Asian Carp Control Strategy Framework.  Asian carp, including bighead and silver carp, pose a significant threat to the Great Lakes ecosystem and economy. Anglers are urged to become familiar with the identification of Asian carp, including both adults and juveniles, as the spread of juvenile Asian carp through the use of live bait buckets has been identified as a potential point of entry into Great Lakes waters.  A video demonstrating how to identify bighead and silver carp can be viewed on the USFWS YouTube channel at . Identification guides, frequently asked questions, management plans and an online reporting form are available online at www.michigan.gov/asiancarp and www.wildohio.com, or call 800-WILDLIFE. The Michigan and Ohio Departments of Natural Resources are committed to the conservation, protection, management, use and enjoyment of the region’s natural and cultural resources for current and future generations.  ### Photo caption: Michelle Budny from the University of Notre Dame collects a water sample from Lake Erie for eDNA screening. Photo credit: Lindsay Chadderton, The Nature Conservancy.  Map information: Locations of Lake Erie water sample sites, with Asian carp eDNA positive locations marked in red (bighead carp) and orange (silver carp). Map credit: Sagar Mysorekar, The Nature Conservancy.                eDNA_sampling_Bighead_Silvercarp_Lake_Erie_July_12_2012.pdf lake erie water sample.jpg

You forgot to mention the rivets we put in your boat are from "jay-cee" shameful. [ Post made via Android ]

Now if you want STRIPPERS in lake O. I have heard some storys from people fishing in boats alongside Ray "buffy" K.

haha, no need for trolling bags with the two of us and that chair

yes! I may have to add some counterweight to the other side of the boat though. Otherwise I'd troll in circles haha

Was thinking something like this.

Some progress!!! Diagnosed my motor issue - ended up being an intermittent issue with the timer base. If all goes well I will pop the new timer in, link/sync, and be landing 35lb salmon by Sunday. haha yeah right. here's to wishful thinking! Install new timer base Add Registration sticker Fix fuel tanks Link/Sync Paint Motor (postponed till fall 2012) Tilt/Trim (postponed till fall 2012) Updated pic with seating: I will likely be doing something different with the passenger seating at some point, but this is actually turned out pretty good.

Great question. Looking forward to seeing some intelligent responses!