For what it's worth the only bait i use there is a nickel spoon. Red eye,johnson,docktor. I can't get a conesus tiger on a spoon though,go figure. I think they come from the same hatchery. I was lucky 2 years ago and got to watch the stocking at conesus. Quite an operation. They spilled a couple hundred while filling the boats. The little guys were all over the launch disoriented and confused. I wanted to net a bunch of them and put them in my brother's pond but i figured the fine for possessing 20 undersize muskies would take the fun out of it.