That's all right I got 1 last trip out and I don't think it was 100% luck probably only about 90%. I think if I stick a little closer to the drop offs early and late I think I can pull this off.I have a good gps the right lures,decent ice,and time that's half the battle. Thanks jimski2 I have been reading there threads also. I can be tight lipped with what I find also.