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Genny Furlough Mid Day Kings
panfisher replied to Fly n Fish's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Yeah, that is a good question on the legal clarity of hooking an incidental catch inadvertently. Perhaps the fish should be "schooled" on the regs too. From what Ivan said of the DEC chap's appreciative attitude, if he is summoned, perhaps he'd have an advocate against a possible fine. But, gee, that is such a cool and unusual catch, the picture, enlarged and framed, might even be worth a fine; if not too much..... And yes I have seen in print that the Alligator Gar, yeah, the big ones from the south and Mississippi watersheds, are in existence somewhere in southwestern NYS.....
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Yeah, the fast fillet with electrics is nice and easy. And the cats do eat well. But I, for one, am fascinated with that pocket knife method and can't wait to try it and hopefully make it work for me. Either way those perch are worth the effort. BTW, I have tackled a large cooler full the old fashioned "slave way" I described. But that is when I knew of no other way. And after a messy and exhausting couple of hours, and when fried and eaten with the family at 3 or 4 meals......they seem to taste even better! Any way it's done, they are always worth it!!!
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Ha ha hahaha...... Thanx for the clarification Sk8man! And Justin, sorry about that.. .. or should I say Tracy, sorry about THAT ! Hopefully you are each others better halves....which should mean no apologies required either way....... ! Anywhooo, I do appreciate your prowess and it is one reason I love fishing; the feeling of success in trying to understand and master what it takes to "crack the nut" in any situation where you know there may be decent catches to be had in an ordinarily tough fishery. It's just fun! ......
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Chautauqua Tony......Awesome vid. And the first link posted worked (for me). But that technique looks great. I'll have to master it! I've been using, since 10 years of age, a very tedious (slow and messy) and laborious and sometimes painful method of scaling and beheading that is at best a pain in the ass and hands. I can use either fillet knife or electric, but I prefer the end result of the scaling and beheading (gutting) method. I like the flavor with the skin on and bones in, as it is easy to peel away the fillets off the bone at the table. And the lack of waste is also important to me. But with Costa's Indian way, I'll gladly give up the skin to save my hands and time and not waste a lot of succulent perch meat like trying to fillet them does. But guys.....give J.D. a break. I know plenty of folks that fillet like that. He's showing a way that works for him. I've filleted like that too, but if I have the time I revert back to that slavery way that yields really nice results. Costa's way will definitely be the way I go on the next round of processing. Thanx... !! BTW, any videos known of the butterflying method I've seen with perch, with some being what I would call tiny (maybe 4-5 inch whole) fish? I've seen these skinless boneless butterfly fillets (connected at the belly side) that waste almost no meat, in batches of commercially processed retail sold perch meat.....
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Paddlefish in New York....Awesome and excellent! Who cares if you don't eat or catch them. They are an awesome looking and cool fish! I've heard they have had issues in the Mississippi and elsewhere in their native range, again for the usual ham handed human stuff. It's good to know they are successfully being restored to native waters here. Now, where are the Alligator Gar (not Longnose; there's tons of them) that are supposed to be native and present in that Chautauqua area (or is it the Alleghany river)?
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Perhaps rw6788 remembers those not too distant days when pics of mega harvests of fish and game were the rule and norm for everyone...... And the results, as just one of the many thousands of cuts to our environment (that is not a bad word). We have learned a lot since then and there is always the fact that man does often have a heavy and selfish hand in this world which we are just one part of. That being said, I also like to harvest my take as well as processing, eating and sharing it. I do not always harvest what I get. But I do love cooking and eating the great things mother nature has to share with us. Also, the great fun it is to indulge in the art and science of going after fish and game. Tracy is having a ball doing what he is doing, and following the rules and the limits are a required part of sharing the bounty without depleting it, as I'm sure he does. It is a a stretch to assume that Tracy evidently does not practice conservation because of proudly showing off the results of a good day on the water. But I do understand where that sentiment may come from. Just let's not get into jumping to conclusions about one an others doings from some photos and comments. Have a good time, or try to, and if you actually do see folks illegally and unscrupulously harvesting, let them know about it right there or at least report it to appropriate authorities. Fish on!
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Guff...thanx for the "Cayuga fisher" tip. Never knew of it. Always good to find new fishing sites, especially for the fingers! .....mpolena...Gator is right about the laker- to-smallie idea. There are some beauts in Kueka, And they sometimes can be fairly deep. Often found in September near shoreline where water drops right off into deep water, such as anywhere along the "sides" of the lake. They will hit the same stuff as the lakers, just suspended maybe 20-50 feet down. I like that idea of the topwater, but personally am not sure of that at that time of year. But definitely worth the try.....
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It is tough to beat jigging up lakers off the bottom! Their fighting ability really comes through on mid-light tackle. And when you can get in on a relatively calm day, it's great. Use your electronics to see them. Even if you don't mark them on the bottom, some may very well be there under any suspended marks. Braid or flouro works good for the deep water feel on the bottom. Outdoorsman is right about weight (at least 3/4 oz).....and any soft plastic body; grubtails, swimbaits, crawdads....they'll all work. Heavy spoons work well too.....
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Check out this monster i got last monday!
panfisher replied to fisherman21's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
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Guff....I've talked up the pike a bit in Seneca but have not fished there for over a couple of years. The last time we nailed them (incidentally while bass fishing) was in the early -mid 2000's. When was this pike disappearance you spoke of ....(approximately)......?
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In re-looking at that 7lb+ smallie U caught a couple of weeks ago, I just had to ask.....did it fight like one might imagine a smallie of that size could fight? Did you know you had something special on ......I've trolled up a large smallie (5lb.) in Ontario while salmonid fishing with much heavier tackle and it was no big deal. I'll assume U were not using particularly heavy gear. How was the fight...... ?
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Yeah, me too.....would also appreciate any good info on Cranberry and possibly Star as well.........
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Crossing into Canadian waters
panfisher replied to Up-trim's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
Nice sentiments waller. And thanx. You know, you r spot on, I think, about making the money on fear by both sides. I had not thought of this but it does make sense. But wait a minute.....We always used to make the trip to Canada, most often St. Catherines, to stock up on the likes of Labatts Extra Stock, REAL Molsons Golden Ale, Porter Ale, and a variety of other tasty brews from your side from the Brewers Retails. While many of the good U.S. beers seemed to be homogenizing and being bought out, cheapened with inferior ingredients to save money, etc. etc. Now all the rage is micro breweries here where everybody seems to think that throwing berries, crazy grains and WAY too much hops (gag) into the recipe is what really good beer is. Childish taste buds.... .....IMHO -
All we need now is those darned silver carp that fly out of the water when the motor goes by.....! You'll get hit, fall in the water where the lamprey will start suckin' on you in ways you don't want, and the gobies will be nippin on your toes as u try to get the hell outa there!!
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Slugs. Direct couisins of snails. Except they don't have shells. Also related to clams, mussels, oysters, scallops, squids, octopus......mollusks. Have seen them forever around here. You'll see big ones (5-6 in.+) sliming along on sidewalks and lawns and anywhere. They usually leave a sticky slime trail behind them as they "slide" along. They are mostly water and the slime they secrete keeps them moist on the otherwise dry land. Many similar species and many live in fairly dry climates. I've seen brightly colored 6 inchers in downtown East Rochester.....No joke at all, thanx.....
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Crossing into Canadian waters
panfisher replied to Up-trim's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
Sorry for the darker thoughts. Just gotta have your ---- together more these days.....Do that and it's all good -
Crossing into Canadian waters
panfisher replied to Up-trim's topic in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)
Boy,......the things that have gone down and the ramifications of the actions of a few religious (supposedly) zealots......9/11....Used to be going back and forth across borders, for example, was actually a fun thing. Now it's become a reason for fear, loathing, hassles and misstrust for many.....Would be great to work towards getting back to some of that "Canadians are just like us" days. ......just one thought.... -
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