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Belated... .....Merry Christmas........

Many sad feelings from within for this and the Newtown situations do not keep feeling of good thoughts and prayers to all most directly, and indirectly, affected. These are very bad occurrences. At this season, they are truly devastating. But not so much as to not allow thinking and sending only the best .....for the best.... Am out on the west coast and caught this on the local news here. Went online and saw this posted on world wide news...... All the best to the best.

Because one feels LESS safe knowing that other people around are packing and disagrees with the practice, make them a communist, socialist, msnbc watcher, is totally anti gun, unpatriotic, a "liberal," yadda...yadda...yadda.? Besides owning guns in the past, for hunting and target practice (all fun), I pay taxes to support a strong military and competent police. If one feels the answer to the horrible occurrences at Sandy Hook school is teachers packing concealed weapons, I believe you have no idea of what it is to kill another human being, both spiritually and mentally. Many people I know have collections of guns; some know well how to use them. Am a pretty good shot myself, both with stationary and moving targets. And with more than firearms. But here is my point. I do not like the idea of teachers, who already have way too much to do, if they are good at it, carrying concealed weapons for deterrence in our schools. Yes, a somewhat youthful fantasy of saving the innocent with "guns of the good and right" and being a vigilant do-gooder may appeal to many. Many are attracted to the call of battle; it always has been a strong part of the human psyche. Kill or be killed. The wild west. Violence in many poor urban neighborhoods. Gangland murder.... Just do not think armed teachers is the way to go.... Would rather see dedicated armed security, police or otherwise on site. PLUS a reduction and monitoring of the hugely unnecessary high power weaponry available to anybody, anywhere, today. Would much rather not to have any of this. I know what it is like to shoot some high powered guns. It always amazes me to think of why, other than personal insecurity, would anybody get a big thrill of using these in a life or death situation (other than out and out war). Unless they felt some powerful feeling of "nobody will mess with me or mine." That is the insecurity I do not want to proliferate and cultivate in schools. Do get off on the thrill of the power. To me, it's the same as with the sound of powerful dragsters (top fuel please). Or a Space Shuttle (or any other big rocket) launch. Or powerful engines of military jet aircraft (F-22 or my fav F-16). But, with the maniac(s) who came into this and other schools (or anywhere) to deal murderous harm, contemplating harm to others is made stupidly simple with the ease of availability of ridiculously high powered armaments. Having guns around in school is not a comforting thought at all. Been there. Felt that...... BTW, these thoughts are for all of us directly and indirectly hurt and harmed and shuttered by the events of 12/15/12.....everyone. We all must help find the answers to reducing and stopping this kind of stuff.

Maleren.... Those Atlantics look just like the landlocks we catch in the Finger lakes....only WAY BIGGER !! In Lake Ontario, the kings reign supreme. But in the last few years, more and more bigger Atlantics R being caught, thanks to many years of effort by New York State and the province of Ontario. And the ones out of the Big O are fat and look like big fat Brown trout....pushing over 20lbs. Thanks for the videos

Sluggo / NY....Cool ! A limit of eaters hard won? They'll taste even better ! BTW....jigs, sticks, or bait??

A gallery could be awesome, especially when I can get my hands on some decent pic equipment.... ! Seriously, it might take this forum to another, higher level. What would be the downside....money or space or un-reversability ??

When the second amendment was penned guns were single shot and took a long time to load that shot. When the Gatling was made, that was meant for warfare, not personal protection or defense or deterrence. Downsizing of the Gatling capability (Uzi, Ars, and any and every semi and automatic), put this warfare capability into the hands of anybody. These days, anybody and any gun can do great and horrible damage to any living animal (we are animals). Guns were invented to make it really easy to kill another living animal. Not plants. Not inanimate objects (targets, clay pigeons, bottles, whatever). And with today's guns and ammo and capacities, one needs little or no skill to murder many. I personally would not feel good about knowing teachers are about with loaded concealed guns. It is just that mentality that drives some people in the urban areas of cities across America to pack guns; they are SCARED of getting shot by some other gang banger. Sounds like wild, wild west to me. With all of the guns around and readily available in our country, this ought to be one of the safest places on the planet. But the opposite is true. Oh, yeah.... it's just the wrong people have them...... Lost in the news last week was that in China, some jerk o'lantern tried to kill 22 kids in a school there. They were injured and survived, because the idiot could only get blades, not guns. Just as horrifying and messed up. But the kids are still with us...... Military trained or police persons out there would be insulted if everybody was packing. And police across the country agree that they would like to see fewer guns out there. I'm sorry. I just do not believe that not controlling the availability of auto and semi auto guns and mass damage sabots and high round clips make my world any safer. Yes, it did work (almost didn't) with nuclear weapons. But that was true warfare. Does anybody believe that the more nukes available in countries around the world would make the planet any safer? If you feel safer with knowing that anybody or everybody should or could be packing, you truly are not aware of the atmosphere that that creates. Nutballs and loose cannons are everywhere. U might be one yourself. I and anyone else can defend themselves or get away easier from someone wielding anything other than some kind of a gun. They were invented solely to make it easier to kill another animal. We are animals......

Good stuff, man !

Boat for bait....now that's a catchy idea

Slugggo / NY....looking forward to your posts..tcarroway...funny stuff ! BTW....caught a nice 8lb. 'eye trolling for shallow spring salmonids in the middle of the day 2 years ago...must b more of them at night along the shoreline, off around creek mouths, hanh.... ....? So one need not go to Bay of Quinte for these big 'eyes?

Cool..... ! Can't wait 2 C the new deal. But, like many "new and improved" products, Don't blow it . There is a place for "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" thinking. Can't count the many really great things that all loved and then were changed or "improved". Many were changed for the worst and lost forever .... Schlitz beer, that taste of original Genesee beer products that was lost when Upper Falls came into being (the name change back did not bring back the taste....Cream Ale tastes nothing like it used to!)....Duncan Hines brownie mix that was changed in the '80's....Encore beer (also by Schlitz).... Coca-Cola.... I know we are not going to eat or drink LOU....But...just don't throw out the baby with the bath water ...keep the good stuff and build onto it!

Walleyemagic......Very nice piece, people !... and I do like that fat musky ... No pike or bass worthy of mention? Don't know U guys, but thought that might be Wayne county around Sodus area till spotting your Black River area. Good fun and good eats!....

U do beautiful work, man!!

Interesting piece of equipment. Looks like it would prove to b effective on lakers. Particularly those massed schools seen hugging the bottom sometimes at 300fow in the summer. At least i am assuming those might b lakers, as I have never been able to "get anything up" from there with regular spoon or ff rigging. Have pondered some still jigging for those, which seems extraordinary on the Big O.....

pete rajner...and sons..... Whew! Those R some AWESOME fish! Even in the hands of physically littler folks those are some VERY DECENT fish...particularly those 'eyes and pike. And that salmon dragging its tail on the boat floor.....Wow!! Well done gang !!!!

OK,....Just trying to assist anyone who has negative issue with these .....If they are a turn off, U can avoid the sudden sounds merely by turning down the volume. Or, move the cursor easily down along the far right or left side of the screen, around the level of the lights, and they won't break. Bet that 75%+ enjoy these annual holidays free toys. And no, nobody is seriously suggesting one gets drunk or otherwise artificially "besides oneself". Please keep posting and reviewing the LOU. Most of all, have a Merry Christmas, and/or a happy New Year.....even before or well after any holiday periods .....at some times of the year..! BTW...personally enjoy these and would love to see them stay and come again in the following seasons........with all respect to those having other viewpoints. And let's talk fish and game!!!!

Hmmmmm... guess for every this there's a that..... Why else would anyone be truly annoyed by this little silly fun noise maker? 4 folks that can't handle it, simply turn the volume down on the speakers..... If that is too hard to do, and asking how to purge this "scourge" from happening by some soft or hardware or technical adjustments, is deemed necessary, U have gone too far with electronics gadgetry and the desire to monkey with it ad infinitum. Try using a shot of good whiskey, (Wild Turkey 101, Keystone Light, or whatever... ) and some easy patience.... It will all be over after the holidays.....And just think of all the simple fun lots R having with it....Still turn U off?.....could B a lot worse... ..YYEEEOOWW!!!

tcarroway.... How'd the "wobblin' " go....?

Nice browns baby....!!

rolmops.....very interesting. Do U or anyone else have any further info, as far as real studies or news on the cuke-herbicide-safe to consume-fishing-Israeli thing is concerned? Could and will spend a little time online to find some, but a lead or two would b nice....Sk8man....U R right absolutely; but this has already opened up neat (2 me) things to ponder and maybe be aware of ....

Otters. clams, frabills.....What we need are passports, as we'll all have to go to the tundra in a couple of years to do any ice fishing worth investing in; and maybe for only a couple more years after that. Maybe fishing for largemouths and peacock bass in greenland in 10 years! BTW, just a casual comment. No pro-con man -made vs totally natural (same thing!) global warming political fights meant at all.......

sea yea 2.......cool! ...... .......

Great report pete rajner. Thanx. I guess, like rolmops says, the temps have stabilized and are good enough for all...

Wobble right into December....Ha Ha ha haaa! A wobble here and a wobble there keeps the freezer stocked well with wobbly walleyes.....Wow !!