I fish the pessive/agressive method at t-falls using one slip bobber an throwing bucktails with the other rod. Lately I've only caught on the jig. 17 trips $20 in bait and the only 4 hits I've had have been from loons, but I'll keep throwing the bait cause I know it works, and so I still feel like I'm fishing when it's time to drink a . On a side note I've been doing well with the jig on all target species ll, lt, bt, including a 27" 7.5# male ll in full spawning colors, with a huge kipe. If I can get the pics off my phone I'll post. He was a real beauty.