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Dr W replied to cook's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Struggling to catch staging fish
Dr W replied to Larry D's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Mix it up Try short leads on your riggers with J-plugs and faster speed up to even 3 mph That worked back in the 1990's for me. I also pulled big Dodgers OO size with a twinkle fly or a squid back then Lots of turns and change speed too. -
Nick: I talked to a guy who bought a Diesel Trawler from Long island to Seneca Lake and he did it in a long weekend Coming up the Hudson and then the Mohawk to Oneida lake and then on to Seneca He said he could make 10mph all the way. About 35 hours or him If you had a faster boat that could do 25 mph average I think you would make that trip which is 300 miles in 2 long days. With a "BIG" boat with twin big blocks 454's you better plan on lots of fuel my guess is 400 gal or more. BTW there was a Bayliner 32 up n Henderson with twin 4 Volvo engines>? Maybe diesels ? That would be a good fuel saving option? Dr W
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Diesel Vs Gasoline Engines [Boats] I keep wondering why so few boats on the Grate Lakes [inland waters] are Diesel powered ? Diesel motors are ! Higher torque and last longer and use safer fuel, as far as fire hazard is concerned. Many ocean going fishing boats as well as sail boats have diesel power, so why not here? The alternative used most in salt water happens to be multi engine outboards and that is not the case here either. Would you buy a diesel ? I would even though I would them be stuck hauling fuel or having to go to bigger ports where it is available. My Truck is a Diesel and I love it , Power and economy when pulling a load! Dr. W
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Do you want to do a bunch of work on a boat? I saw a Rommer for sale cheap ! Hard to find and super good hull. old 327's but it was running and a fire sale .. $2000 is cheap https://rochester.craigslist.org/boa/d/1964-chris-craft-roamer/6306448814.html IF you are going for a ride Contact John Orvec over in the oak and look at his boat to get an idea of both luxury and fishing space. [Trautman ] he is a pro and on Lake Ontario United too. One of the best guides I ever met.
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So Nick : How big is "BIGGER" and are you thinking Trailable ? or not? Love looking at boats and I have seen some BIG TWIN ENGINE boats over 30 that could sit on a trailer [ but over 120 inches wide] permit needed to trail them. Troutman over in the Oak ran a 11 meter with twin 455's and loves it for charter An express cruiser design that big is very nice and handles 5 and 6 foot waves Dr W
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So Nick : Are you really thinking of trading boats? How big Are you looking to go? Trailable or you going to keep it at the Marina? I ask because I know of a 28 foot single screw full inboard down in Penn Yan full cabin fly bridge on a trailer. You would have to rig it but it has potential. I would even tow it to Ontario for you [once] I have a diesel truck . I should have bought that one but it is just to big to trail every week Dr W
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WOW all that north wind blew a lot of warm water south and drove the cold water deep. Hope you have plenty of cable on your riggers! and how far back would you put a dipsy diver ? 500+ Take all week to bring that fish in.. Perhaps we should try ocean jigs in the 3 or 4 ounce range with Sawbellies ? Dr W
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How many 30+ pound kings ? 50+ even a dozen 40+ pound fish in this lake and on in the Kenai river that was 71 pounds . But that was way back in the 1980's when we had the ideal conditions with Saw bellies out the wazoo ! before the crash in the Saw bellies population around 2000 I started fishing kings in 1882 and quit in 2000 and returned last year in hopes of finding a returning fishery
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Kokanee Salmon .. The Kokanee is a tiny cousin of the Sockeye salmon and is most often 10 inches long or so and a giant would be 15 inches long. Lake Ontario has a good number of King Salmon aka Chinook Salmon that in the right situation can actually top 100 pounds [Kenai river Alaska] I was wondering what might happen IF New Your or Ontario Provence were to introduce some Kokanee Salmon into several rivers on the lake. The Kokanee could be a good food source for the kings and we then might see those kings get bigger, really bigger! say in the 60 pound range? I would also like to see some of the Kenai river Species genes imported to the hatchery and added to the genetic mix we not have to increase size as well. I remember when they introduced the Skymania Steelhead and for a few years we had a few that were spectacular jumpers when hooked, the Atlantic Salmon has taken their place, and I think we should have more Atlantic Salmon and fewer Cohos stocked personally. Keep in mind that the Sawbelly forage base in lake Ontario is still fragile and a very cold winter will knock them back and we will lose a big chunk of the forage base that allows us to have the great King Salmon fishery we have. Dr W
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J-Plugs I remember catching a lot of kings way back in the late 1980's and 90's using j-Plugs Why hasn't anyone been pulling any J-Plugs this year? They worked then They should work now Remember to pull them close to the Down rigger weight I sure plan on trying some next trip out. Dr W Vessel Low Profile
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When the lake flattens out again Perhaps you might try pulling a big J-Plug and see what happens ... I quit fishing Ontario in 2000 and now recall that about this time of year we would pull big ladder back J-Plugs and had good success, I had forgotten that until We were heading home on the trailer. IF I can find a crew I might be back Weather permitting on Friday After lunch. PS nice boat [ same model as mine but a few years younger] Dr W
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Hughs Marina Saturday
Dr W replied to Dr W's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
machzrcr I will be out and give you a shout on "8" IF I find a good bite! or just to say HI . I'm am USCG.Aux out of 4-7 [Canandaigua] Returned after 17 years retired. And to be honest I broke down last year and could not raise and one over in Sodus and ended up paying sea tow for help with my old boat. I just returned to the Aux because of that and should any one ever ask for help I am always monitoring 16. The new boat is a 2452 Bayliner named " Low Profile " Thanks for the note! all of you guys Be safe out there! Dr W