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For fish or for food? I use a 60qt (I think) for fish on derby days it's the right size for lake o

Inside #5 with weight in first hole outside #4 with weight in 3rd hole all wire divers I also use a longer heavier rod on the outside it runs well

These days fish are often more boat shy stick with 2 riggers with the smaller boat (my opinion) there is a lot of really good info about rigging on this site when I got back I to trolling g this site cut years off the learning curve and I still pick up great tips and info here

Gambler is right we are at the north end of the range for shad. There is always someone winter kill it actual an important feeding time for catfish. That said a mild winter can cause a population boom which leads to a larger kill I'm later years if it all or mostly shad it's a good thing its normal cycle and means the lake could produce that much life in the fist place

Consider what your goal is long lines catch fish but the longer the harder catch and release becomes. Long junk lines tend to be increased work and decreased fun. My boat only runs them for derbies. The 4 diver set up is good advice for sure I will say this though with a smaller aluminum when I run 4 divers I do not do cheater on the down riggers I find with kings the extra lure is almost guaranteed to get into a diver line and almost always around one and into the other so 4 dipseys no cheater 2 dipseys cheater is okay. I use a 1 and 3 setting with a size 5 chinook inside and a size 4 for the high diver. Also weighted steel is much more user-friendly than copper so that's my recomendation

It's not necessary to see them on your sonar but the more blow back the more they are in the way of other lines and netting its really about comfort

We're your marks east or west gonna be that way tomorrow but haven't been on the lake In a couple weeks nice to have a starting point last time I fished there was 3 years ago and I blew my engine haven had a chance with the new boat yet

These discussions can be fun there are a lot of knowledgeable experienced people on this site with varied backgrounds Yankee and gambler are two that know there fishing deserve to be listened to and considered thoughtfully even if you don't agree and consider who starred this thread love seeing comments from the biologist we rely on To keep the lake healthy

The bloater experiment is relatively small stocking primarily on the east half of the lake I wouldn't expect to them be common on the west end in fish that primarily move west to east through the season if the do establish it might create a situation where more kings winter to the east and we more often have good spring king fishing to get valid data it has to go at least a couple full life cycles I would much rather see money spent o. This than on Atlantics which will never be more than a minor bonus fishery

Very well said I agree that experimenting to see if an additional preyfish can be reestablished could prove beneficial both directly and indirectly to the fishery

Out of the sun when not in use goes a long way but I'm curious to see what other feedback comes for this always good to know ways to take care of the gear

this year i have been experimenting with the offshore board with a walker bullet release on the front. I took the snaps off and used the wire eye to attach it to the board. easy to set easy to release and so far is working better than the sams pro did for me. thinking about trying it on the mag boards for the heavier lines.

Dec does a ton of walleye stocking around the state typically they try to manage lakes as either warm water or cold water so either trout or walleye and its not because some lakes can't handle both its because resources like hatchery space people and money are not unlimited and government is not efficient with funds realistically there are trout and walleye fishery available within a reasonable drive for everyone in the state including some world class options. They do an excellent job using actual science to make decisions and not just politics and complaining fisherman. The dec gets a lot of crap that isn't justified and the legal system of new york does not take conservation law seriously enough and despite that the state has multiple destination waters for salmon. Bass trout walleye and muskie for those who like other fish the state has some of the biggest sheepshead and carp on the planet

Maybe not invasive but there are still disease issues and I know of no known captive population to breed or raise them from would just take to much space that said an aggressive harvest plan to reduce lake trout for a few years might do that lake a lot of Good another option might be to capture quarantine and than release some large Lakers from elsewhere they will happily turn cannabilist which could limit the overpopulation and make a trophy fishery

I don't need any more incentive to retire just 25 years more savings

It also makes the regs easier to understand for so.e people making it always may first means a slightly earlier start no reason you can't still have an opening weekend trip might even be less boat traffic as locals got out during the week and can avoide the opening weekend rush

I would get a license a gun and learn to hunt if they opened up a season on those things

i also am finding myself obsessed with jigging some kings and or casting on a drift or hovering still. last year i went out and got a few jigs and set up a rod and manged to get some practice runs in on cayuga jigging lakers. had a ton of success there to get some confidence. weather and timing on Lake O i only managed to try it one day for about an hour before the fishing partners started to complain. got a couple hits and gobys. did get one king that was briefly exciting but only at the bite as it was only a 2-3 pound fish. i'm dying to spend some more time trying it if the conditions and fish set up out there.