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Weighted steel is used as an alternative to copper it is more user friendly in some ways especially if you just starting out on junk lines 7 strAnd and 19 strand are more of a braid alternative usually used on dipsey rods Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Not defending a bad mechanic but engine technology has come a long way. A 15 year vetern learned on engines from the late 90s and beyond so older stuff is not what there used to there is good money in working for dealers which is lots of work on newer engines and certifications on specific brands there is none of that around for Johnson now marine mechanics are in demand and there are not a lot so they can be very picky and charge a ton for labor it is upsetting but as long as they are up front I can respect that. Taking the work than not doing the repair is BS though and charging for an unfixed issue well just typing that sets off anger issues Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

The rougher feeling ride is a compromise for more cockpit space the farther forward the helm is the more it bounces at speed the smoothest part of the boat is the stern boats made to fish solo a lot or fished from the driver's seat have the helm way rearward lund has some pro v models where you can touch the transom from the helm if your doing a lot of big water trolling with two or three people the commander is a great model and if it's that rough go slower lake o has a lot of days where it's better to be paitent and slower on the way in and out and all that dance floor can make the fishing comfortable how you intend to use the boat makes a big difference in the models that work well and there is definitely a place for some of the West coast style aluminum big water trollers on the great lakes crestliner also makes the authority which is pricy but has some extra amenities and was also on my list but probably not in my budget My last boat was a sea nymph 196 great lakes special so I have some appreciation of where your coming from I loved my seanymph and know the commander felt right Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

If your mostly trolling the under power is less of a problem that said the boat itself is a wonderful platform especially if you do a lot of trolling it's very well built to fish out of the back and was on my short list when I was shopping this past spring the right one just didn't come up but if it had I would have jumped on it even with a 90 hp can always work it hard a couple years and save up for a repower Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

91 is 30 year's old I had an 88 last spring the mechanic said he didn't work on anything older than 95 he had more work than he could handle so just wasn't interested it sucked but at least he was honest about it I think with Johnson s that is going to be more and more common if your up to doing your own work than that is the way to go Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Some additional data to consider that affects conditions. Daily temperature total rainfall and when inflow and outflow volumes and there ratio to each other also I think you have to start back in March as spring Conditions lead to the starting conditions for the June timeline. Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Thanks for the replies. I will look at the sheridan launch I am okay with a pay launch as long as it has parking and is reasonably safe to leave a trailer in.

looking to plan out the final trip of the year before putting the boat to bed. like to try different things this time of year. Looking at the upper niagra. Looking for some advice on which launch to use. I have fishef small boat harbor but would like to try downstream more in the grand island area. would rather not have to go on the island but will if needed. boat is an 18 foot alluminum. thank you in advance

Weather conditions this year set things u different for us we did not do well on our traditional way points and had to search out new spots fishing was harder overall but life conditions has us fishing sodus area more this year last two years were more sandy area. We had more consistent action than many we talked to but overall fewer fish and smaller kings but more and bigger stealhead. We lost most of spring when the boat died but turned out a blessing I ended up with a boat I never thought I would end up with and it's a pleasure to fish out of. Key lesson this year if it's not working g change it up and do the be afraid to go to very different areas if your normal ones are not set up Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Good to here I will have to put it on the list of options for the last two trips I do miss that lake Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

Wondering if anyone has been seeing any pike on Seneca used to spend some late season trips chasing them in the bays sheltered. From the wind. Have really gotten away from Seneca the last several years but have a lot of good memories thinking about a nostalgia trip before the boat goes asleep for winter don't really wanna trout and salmon troll I get my fill of that all Summer I know not a lot of people target them there but wondering if they are struggling as much as as the trout Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app

We run a smaller boat and try to do a few every year weather and scheduling are always a factor this year we did the Monroe county challenge and the sodus pro am both were a lot of fun we managed a full box for each but couldn't get enough size they were both a lot of fun and we at least felt we had a chance in the past we have done the sandy creek shootout and done well there that is also very am friendly the timing just didn't work out this year the we also did the Fair Haven challenge this year and last just didn't perform well have no issues with the event for someone just getting into lake o and tourny fishing these are good events. This was our first chance to do a proam and would imagine the Oswego and niagra events are good as well based off of our experience Sent from my XT1080 using Lake Ontario United mobile app