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Lake Trout out of Oswego
stoutner replied to reillym's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
As long as it works for you, that is the right thing to do. Using the sonar to figure out how deep your riggers are running does not work though. Your sonar measures a straight line from your transducer to your ball. If your ball is "out" 100 feet and it is blowing back at a 30 degree angle, your actual depth would be about 85 feet. Your sonar would still show it at 100 feet because it is 100 feet from your transducer to your ball. If you are running a 10 or 12 lb ball you might be blowing back at about a 45 degrees angle if you are running about 2.7 mph. At 100 "out" and a 45 degree angle your ball will be about 70 feet down. Your sonar will still show it at 100 feet deep if it is still picking it up. -
For Sale : USA lake fishing gear
stoutner replied to bug15400's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
I AGREE. -
Sodus Pro/Am dates set
stoutner replied to fishman08's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
My observer puked for about 8 hours straight....both days. -
Official pro am update
stoutner replied to fishman08's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
Man, I am taking all of those days off from work now!!!! Looking forward to it. Would love a shot at that cash -
Lake Trout out of Oswego
stoutner replied to reillym's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
I have an X4D and cannot believe how much blowback you get when running down riggers. I also noticed that running about 2.1 mph vs 2.6 mph makes a HUGE difference in how high and back my riggers are running. At 2.6 or 2.7 with a 12 lb torpedo or shark weight you need to subtract 20% - 25% off what your downrigger counter says you are running. If you want to be down to actual depth of 100 feet you really need to let your riggers down to about 125 feet. The deeper you want to go the more blowback. If you want 125 feet, you might have to go down about 175 feet...especially if running a flasher and fly combo. If you want to go 130 feet down at 2.7. mph you almost need to have a 15+ Lb downrigger weight. After seeing how bad it was, I now run a 20 LB shark on my rigger with the probe and 16 Lb Torpedos on my other riggers.I don't have to compensate much at all anymore and can go really deep if I need to. If you are trolling for Lakers and are 2.1 mph or under, 10 or 12 lb weights will do the trick but those cowbells have the same effect on reducing the depth. As long as you run them like 1.5 - 2.0 you would probably be o.k. -
East end No Comm violations?
stoutner replied to Yankee Troller's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
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I also thought I would post a few pics from 2013. A friend at our Marina had this Oswego Newspaper article framed professionally for us . . . . . . . Apicture of that beast with Team mate Barry Turner who happens to be the guy who landed it . . . . . . My wife is a sucker for trophys and plaques . . . . . . Here she is with her first Lamprey caught that weekend . . . . . . Cant wait for next year!
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Rick, No worries. I was just trying to stir things up a little I'd love to bring the beast down to the west end to fish with you guys if it wasn't going to cost me so much for fuel. You guys keep stepping up these tournaments I might just have to suck it up and head that way!!! By the way is your boat in Sodus Point for storage? I didn't see it at my marina.
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Yes you do... Sent from my SCH-I535 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Boemarine.com Bought all my raymarine from them. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Pros are coming to Cayuga in 2014
stoutner replied to Yankee Troller's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
I wonder if they know that the bass fishing can be better at the North end. If so, It will be cool to see a bunch of Bass boats running 35 miles up the lake at about 70 mph -
RUFF RIDER Non Report 9/13-15
stoutner replied to TOP SECRET's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Had the Moruga Scorpion jelly this morning. That will definitely clear your sinuses. My niece's boyfriend said it is awesome and you should patent it. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Sodus Point Pier Fishing
stoutner replied to sodus_guy_09's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Not yet. Maybe in 2 weeks or so. -
LOC Derby question?
stoutner replied to SalmonHound's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
I don't imagine he will give up that info. ...but, my invoice # in mid June was 8812 and my next invoice # in mid august was 10008. Not sure if they started the season with invoice # 00001 or what was the early invoice numbers. My guess would be 7000 - 10000 for the year. based on the payouts mainly. They pay out about $120,000 for the year and I would guess an average "invoice" is $20. So he'd have to do at least 6000 to break even. Season passes would count as "3" since you are really entering 3 different derbies. -
LO waves 9/6/13
stoutner replied to MWOLF451's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Cool. Thanks for the info. I like the posts!!!! P.S. You are out of bed too early in the morning. -
Absolutely Unnecessary
stoutner replied to buzzer123's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
One of the reasons that Rick is a good Charter Captain is because he actually enjoys fishing AND it is not his primary source of income. You will catch Rick fishing on his boat, in the river, and on the ice. It is much harder to enjoy it when you are depending on the income to feed your family. Many full time guys do it and do it well while enjoying it. Others are just burned out and it is a job to them. -
Absolutely Unnecessary
stoutner replied to buzzer123's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
They are a lot easier to catch in the river. I have become pretty good at flossing them in the river too Last year when I was fishing the staircase I could see 50-100 fish sitting in the river right in front of me. With the proper setup and drift, I was able to floss at least one every 10 or 15 minutes For the lake guys that don't know what "flossing them" is....it is basically sliding your leader line through their mouth and having the hook snag on the inside of the mouth as it is passing through. They will bite in the river but way more are flossed than actually bite. That is why guys with good technique catch way more fish than guys that don't have good technique.