To be honest I stop trout fishing at the end of august and I crushed them from may right thru the end of august so I dont have an answer on where they go or if they even move. I start hitting the perch and crappies hard from september until ice on keuka! As far as what I get them on, anything from spoons, fly's and now and then live bait. No real secret bait just try a little of everything. This year just was amazing, I boated 14browns over 10lbs., and lots under. Also had 6 lakers over 10lbs. Cant wait for next year but it will be hard to beat this one! On a side not the perch are loaded in on keuka and rather hefty, i post some pics later today!