fish or swim

Told ya so Corn shortage idles 20 ethanol plants nationwide http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hWARpb_fnm_9yTjH2Yop4_ACU9Qg?docId=7e1605d746914ba5b429889d07e4aa0b

That is what I was taught as well but the specific length seems to have changed over time, based on info from the earlier posts.

Cabo 44 $400 an hour for fuel Hatteras 77 $1000 an hour

I think I just wet my pants ... ditto that is one SEXY fishing machine!!! Here's some more for ya. Who started this topic? I am suppose to be working haha http://henriquesyachts.net/30express.html

First off, I have no confidence in your plans. If a person thinks they can move from one spot in New Jersey to another spot in New Jersey to become a redneck then there is just no way they are ever going to get it. But if you are determined to improve yourself then here are a few tips. You are going to need a cloths line. Don’t put it in the back yard. It goes right out in the front yard so your family can show off all of your fancy stuff to your neighbors. And don’t put up no fancy new poles and fancy new line. All you need is some good old yellow nylon rope tied to the trees. And make sure when it is all loaded up the cloths drag in the dirt. If you make it nice and tight you will be just shown’ off and that will never go over well with the neighbors. That will get you started after awhile you can steal better stuff from next door. You are going to save a lot of money with this setup. Just leave the cloths out there and let good old mother nature do the work. On a rainy day they get washed and when it’s sunny you get fresh cloths. No need to ever bring them inside. You are going to need a burning barrel. But don’t be mislead by the name. There is never really a fire in it. It just smolders all day and the neighbors enjoy the fumes. You will find this very handy for neighborhood relations. If the neighbor has been ticking you off with something you just throw it in there and wait til the wind is blown’ the right way. He’ll get the message. And you are going to need some livestock. Don’t worry about fences. There is a much better way to keep track of what's yours. Just put a mark of spray paint their sides. If you are sophisticated enough to know writing you could even write your name on them I suppose. You have to go through the neighborhood and pick out a color that hasn’t been used by anyone else. My neighbor uses yellow. I use black. He always asks me why I use black. I tell him because it covers up the yellow so well.

What is the world coming to? We burn diesel fuel (tractors, farm trucks) so we can burn up all of our food to make gasoline. There is no longer a decision to be made. There is simply no longer any choice. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/ ... KU20121011 estimates of 2012/13 ending stocks were smaller than forecast. Corn end stocks, forecast at 619 million bushels, would be a scant three-week supply. It would be a 5.5 percent stocks-to-use ratio, nearly emptying the supply pipeline.

I can't say that I have ever been messed around. But I have had honest people make mistakes. Now the only guy I trust to work on the boat is the guy who's life depends on it out in the middle of the lake. No complaints lately.

Pollution: Toxic chemicals, invasives and phosphorous - excess nuterients An interesting read from Great Lakes Echo http://greatlakesecho.org/2012/10/12/in ... our-voice/ And it (Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement) impacts you if you drink Great Lakes water, visit the beaches and other near shore areas and fish, swim or rely on the lakes for commerce. That’s about 30 million of us. Make that 40 million including our neighbors in Canada.

When I read the title I was thinking of the smart alec answer "whenever we are not on land' Not really a smart alec answer though. Many drowned boat fishermen are found with thier fly down.

They're shipping them back to China. The pollution is so bad they are killing them all off over there. Some see dollar signs in invasive fish http://www.marketplace.org/topics/busin ... asive-fish "Investor Lu Xu Wu was also on hand in Grafton to announce a partnership with American Heartland to ship 35 million pounds of carp to China over the next three years."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/ ... sian-carp/ Watch what happens when ABC’s Alex Perez goes out on the boat to hunt for carp with the extreme fishing team: video in link

Hate them all! When does the next batch of torpedo wire come in? Sorry for the off topic I sent an email to your company but maybe it didn't make it through.

Focus Area 2 Other Aquatic Pathways http://www.glmris.anl.gov/documents/int ... /index.cfm

Army Corps releases Focus Area 2 Aquatic Pathways Summary Report, solicits public comment http://asiancarp.us/news/aquaticpathwaysarea2.htm CHICAGO - The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) today released for public comment the Focus Area 2 Aquatic Pathways Assessment Summary Report. This report presents the methodology and key evidence used to assess the potential for transfer of aquatic nuisance species (ANS) between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basins through several aquatic pathways. A total of 18 potential aquatic pathway reports, and one report for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, will be released in phases, by state, as part of the Great Lakes and Mississippi River Interbasin Study (GLMRIS), Focus Area 2. The overall objective of the Focus Area 2 portion of GLMRIS is to produce an interim report for each potential aquatic pathway that is found between the two basins. Each report evaluates key evidence from the available information to qualitatively estimate the likelihood of an aquatic pathway forming and ANS being able to utilize it to reach the adjacent basin. Included in many of these pathway assessments, and included in the summary report, are some potential actions or opportunities that were identified that might prevent or reduce the probability of ANS transfer occurring between the basins. These reports are the next step in a tiered approach to assess the risk associated with the spread of ANS between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basins. USACE identified interested parties and solicited input early in the process for Focus Area 2 and has included individual visits and discussions with the state agencies responsible for water resources, and fish and wildlife management in the eight states bordering the Great Lakes. The process used for the Focus Area 2 assessments has also been discussed in meetings with representatives of the Council on Environmental Quality, U.S. Geological Survey, U.S. Fish and WildlifeService, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Natural Resource Conservation Service and Great Lakes Fishery Commission. Comments will be accepted beginning Sept. 14, 2012. The comment period will close 30 days later Oct. 14, 2012. Comments may be submitted electronically at http://www.glmris.anl.gov or mailed to GLMRIS Focus Area 2, Summary Report Comments, 1776 Niagara Street, Buffalo, NY 14207-3199. Brig. Gen. Margaret W. Burcham of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Lakes and Rivers Division and Mr. John Goss, Asian carp director at the White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ), are pleased to announce the release of the Great Lakes and Mississippi River Interbasin Study Aquatic Pathway Reports. "These reports were prepared in coordination and consultation with various federal and state partner agencies," stated Burcham. "The reports are valuable tools as we work collaboratively to prevent aquatic nuisance species from spreading between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basins." "This draft report provides important information to help federal agencies and states and communities address the range of potential entry points for Asian carp into the Great Lakes," said Goss. "We will continue to take comprehensive action to protect our Great Lakes and the communities that depend on them, and to ensure an effective long-term solution that works for Great Lakes communities." The reports are available for download on the GLMRIS website at http://www.glmris.anl.gov. USACE will host a conference call Sept. 28, 2012 at 10 a.m. (Central). Call-in information is: USA Toll-Free: 877-336-1839, Access Code: 850 6361, Security Code: 0000. USACE will review and incorporate public input before finalizing and re-issuing the report later in winter 2012.