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Told ya so Corn shortage idles 20 ethanol plants nationwide http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hWARpb_fnm_9yTjH2Yop4_ACU9Qg?docId=7e1605d746914ba5b429889d07e4aa0b

That is what I was taught as well but the specific length seems to have changed over time, based on info from the earlier posts.

Cabo 44 $400 an hour for fuel Hatteras 77 $1000 an hour

I think I just wet my pants ... ditto that is one SEXY fishing machine!!! Here's some more for ya. Who started this topic? I am suppose to be working haha http://henriquesyachts.net/30express.html

First off, I have no confidence in your plans. If a person thinks they can move from one spot in New Jersey to another spot in New Jersey to become a redneck then there is just no way they are ever going to get it. But if you are determined to improve yourself then here are a few tips. You are going to need a cloths line. Don’t put it in the back yard. It goes right out in the front yard so your family can show off all of your fancy stuff to your neighbors. And don’t put up no fancy new poles and fancy new line. All you need is some good old yellow nylon rope tied to the trees. And make sure when it is all loaded up the cloths drag in the dirt. If you make it nice and tight you will be just shown’ off and that will never go over well with the neighbors. That will get you started after awhile you can steal better stuff from next door. You are going to save a lot of money with this setup. Just leave the cloths out there and let good old mother nature do the work. On a rainy day they get washed and when it’s sunny you get fresh cloths. No need to ever bring them inside. You are going to need a burning barrel. But don’t be mislead by the name. There is never really a fire in it. It just smolders all day and the neighbors enjoy the fumes. You will find this very handy for neighborhood relations. If the neighbor has been ticking you off with something you just throw it in there and wait til the wind is blown’ the right way. He’ll get the message. And you are going to need some livestock. Don’t worry about fences. There is a much better way to keep track of what's yours. Just put a mark of spray paint their sides. If you are sophisticated enough to know writing you could even write your name on them I suppose. You have to go through the neighborhood and pick out a color that hasn’t been used by anyone else. My neighbor uses yellow. I use black. He always asks me why I use black. I tell him because it covers up the yellow so well.

What is the world coming to? We burn diesel fuel (tractors, farm trucks) so we can burn up all of our food to make gasoline. There is no longer a decision to be made. There is simply no longer any choice. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/ ... KU20121011 estimates of 2012/13 ending stocks were smaller than forecast. Corn end stocks, forecast at 619 million bushels, would be a scant three-week supply. It would be a 5.5 percent stocks-to-use ratio, nearly emptying the supply pipeline.

I can't say that I have ever been messed around. But I have had honest people make mistakes. Now the only guy I trust to work on the boat is the guy who's life depends on it out in the middle of the lake. No complaints lately.

Pollution: Toxic chemicals, invasives and phosphorous - excess nuterients An interesting read from Great Lakes Echo http://greatlakesecho.org/2012/10/12/in ... our-voice/ And it (Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement) impacts you if you drink Great Lakes water, visit the beaches and other near shore areas and fish, swim or rely on the lakes for commerce. That’s about 30 million of us. Make that 40 million including our neighbors in Canada.

When I read the title I was thinking of the smart alec answer "whenever we are not on land' Not really a smart alec answer though. Many drowned boat fishermen are found with thier fly down.

They're shipping them back to China. The pollution is so bad they are killing them all off over there. Some see dollar signs in invasive fish http://www.marketplace.org/topics/busin ... asive-fish "Investor Lu Xu Wu was also on hand in Grafton to announce a partnership with American Heartland to ship 35 million pounds of carp to China over the next three years."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/ ... sian-carp/ Watch what happens when ABC’s Alex Perez goes out on the boat to hunt for carp with the extreme fishing team: video in link

Hate them all! When does the next batch of torpedo wire come in? Sorry for the off topic I sent an email to your company but maybe it didn't make it through.

Focus Area 2 Other Aquatic Pathways http://www.glmris.anl.gov/documents/int ... /index.cfm

Army Corps releases Focus Area 2 Aquatic Pathways Summary Report, solicits public comment http://asiancarp.us/news/aquaticpathwaysarea2.htm CHICAGO - The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) today released for public comment the Focus Area 2 Aquatic Pathways Assessment Summary Report. This report presents the methodology and key evidence used to assess the potential for transfer of aquatic nuisance species (ANS) between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basins through several aquatic pathways. A total of 18 potential aquatic pathway reports, and one report for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, will be released in phases, by state, as part of the Great Lakes and Mississippi River Interbasin Study (GLMRIS), Focus Area 2. The overall objective of the Focus Area 2 portion of GLMRIS is to produce an interim report for each potential aquatic pathway that is found between the two basins. Each report evaluates key evidence from the available information to qualitatively estimate the likelihood of an aquatic pathway forming and ANS being able to utilize it to reach the adjacent basin. Included in many of these pathway assessments, and included in the summary report, are some potential actions or opportunities that were identified that might prevent or reduce the probability of ANS transfer occurring between the basins. These reports are the next step in a tiered approach to assess the risk associated with the spread of ANS between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basins. USACE identified interested parties and solicited input early in the process for Focus Area 2 and has included individual visits and discussions with the state agencies responsible for water resources, and fish and wildlife management in the eight states bordering the Great Lakes. The process used for the Focus Area 2 assessments has also been discussed in meetings with representatives of the Council on Environmental Quality, U.S. Geological Survey, U.S. Fish and WildlifeService, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Natural Resource Conservation Service and Great Lakes Fishery Commission. Comments will be accepted beginning Sept. 14, 2012. The comment period will close 30 days later Oct. 14, 2012. Comments may be submitted electronically at http://www.glmris.anl.gov or mailed to GLMRIS Focus Area 2, Summary Report Comments, 1776 Niagara Street, Buffalo, NY 14207-3199. Brig. Gen. Margaret W. Burcham of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Lakes and Rivers Division and Mr. John Goss, Asian carp director at the White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ), are pleased to announce the release of the Great Lakes and Mississippi River Interbasin Study Aquatic Pathway Reports. "These reports were prepared in coordination and consultation with various federal and state partner agencies," stated Burcham. "The reports are valuable tools as we work collaboratively to prevent aquatic nuisance species from spreading between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basins." "This draft report provides important information to help federal agencies and states and communities address the range of potential entry points for Asian carp into the Great Lakes," said Goss. "We will continue to take comprehensive action to protect our Great Lakes and the communities that depend on them, and to ensure an effective long-term solution that works for Great Lakes communities." The reports are available for download on the GLMRIS website at http://www.glmris.anl.gov. USACE will host a conference call Sept. 28, 2012 at 10 a.m. (Central). Call-in information is: USA Toll-Free: 877-336-1839, Access Code: 850 6361, Security Code: 0000. USACE will review and incorporate public input before finalizing and re-issuing the report later in winter 2012.

People claim to be concerned about these issues but you have to show up... http://www.dunnvillechronicle.com/2012/ ... ty-for-ijc "The IJC was in town recently holding a public meeting to talk about algae. Not many people came, perhaps twenty, an indication of how many people care about the subject."

http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b50 ... 514bb94b7d Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement Signed Today “Today We Applaud; Tomorrow We Get To Work†Washington, D.C., September 7, 2012 -- At today’s signing of the revised Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement in Washington, D.C., representatives from Great Lakes United and the National Wildlife Federation applauded the completion of the Agreement but cautioned the U.S. and Canadian governments that the hard work of implementing the Agreement is just beginning. “We are honored to attend today the signing of landmark revisions to the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement, the U.S.-Canadian agreement that is so important to the health of the Great Lakes,†said John Jackson, interim executive director of Great Lakes United. “These revisions were eight years in the making. We hope they will lead to revitalized action from the governments and their partners working together bi-nationally across the entire Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River basin from Duluth to Québec City. Protection, cleanup and restoration are essential to ensure that we live in a vital, thriving Great Lakes basin. Today we applaud. Tomorrow we get to work.†“If fully implemented, the agreement will benefit millions of people by restoring the health of the largest fresh water resource in the world,†said Andy Buchsbaum, director of the Great Lakes office of the National Wildlife Federation. “We are pleased to see that the governments have kept the focus of the Agreement on Great Lakes water quality. While the Agreement continues to focus on cleaning up pollution in the Great Lakes, the revisions are designed to address broader threats to water quality, including aquatic invasive species, climate change, habitat destruction, and harmful substances that are not necessarily persistent toxic substances.†The Agreement contains some targets for addressing these stresses. For example, it requires phosphorus reduction targets for Lake Erie within three years and action plans within five years. It sets a two-year deadline for the development and implementation of an early detection and rapid response system for aquatic invasive species. It does not include timelines for cleaning up Areas of Concern (toxic hotspots) or achieving virtual elimination of chemicals of concern. Jackson said, “While we praise today the signing of this new Agreement, this is only the first step. No matter what the words on the page say, this Agreement will only be effective if the U.S. and Canadian governments act to implement it.†“We know this from experience,†Buchsbaum said. “For example, when the governments enacted new laws and rules to implement the 1987 Amendments – as the U.S. Congress and the U.S. EPA and Environment Canada did to address persistent toxic substances in the Great Lakes – the Agreement helped bring the lakes back to health. But when the governments have failed to implement parts of the Agreement, the lakes suffer.†U.S. and Canadian officials have stated in reports that the Great Lakes would be far better off today if the governments had more fully implemented the 1987 Agreement—the last time the Water Quality Agreement was updated. “We ring this alarm bell with today’s revised Agreement,†Jackson said. “We call on the governments to ensure a more effective implementation of the Agreement they signed today.†Great Lakes United and the National Wildlife Federation requested that the governments take the three following actions: 1) Ensure that adequate resources are available to implement the Agreement. “Unfortunately, we are currently going the wrong direction on this matter,†Jackson said. “In the past year, the Canadian Government has moved swiftly towards its goal of eliminating hundreds of government scientist positions, even as they commit in the revised Agreement to science-based decision-making. Canada is planning to close down the major Canadian research station dedicated to freshwater experimentation that has been so important in deepening our understanding of problems and solutions.†“On the U.S. side, there has been better news, but the future is worrisome,†Buchsbaum said. “We were pleased to see $475 million added to the Great Lakes budget in 2010 under the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative. But we now see budget fights that have reduced that budget to $300 million dollars annually. The federal fund to support sewage treatment upgrades (so important for the Great Lakes) has also been substantially cut. We fear what further cuts may come.†2) Strengthen and expand legislation and regulations as needed to protect the Great Lakes. In Canada, movement is in the opposite direction aimed at weakening legislation such as the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act and the Fisheries Act. In the U.S., Congressional efforts have been to gut the Clean Water Act protections that are the foundation of Great Lakes health. “The Great Lakes need more protections, not fewer,†said Buchsbaum. 3) Involve the public to ensure progress and accountability. “We need opportunities for more complete public and stakeholder engagement in the implementation of the Agreement,†said Jackson. The new Agreement has more references to involving the public than did the previous one—though it is weak in how it will specifically engage U.S. and Canadian citizens. The only specific commitment is a public forum once every three years. “We need true public engagement by, for example, including stakeholders as full members of working committees set up under the Agreement,†he said. “We hope that this revised Agreement will revitalize the binational focus on protecting and restoring the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River ecosystem,†said Jackson. “This Agreement is the main way in which the governments work internationally across the basin on water quality issues. For the well-being of the millions of people who live in the basin, we must ensure that this new Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement is implemented fully and effectively.â€

I was speaking with an older Great Lakes biologist one time, listening would be a better way to put it. And he told me back in the 1960s when they were attempting to find a fish to reduce the alewives in the Great Lakes striped bass were on the list but the decision was made to go with the pacific salmon instead. I am afraid if I tried to explain the reasoning I would mess it up.

I think UV clothing is a bit of a scam. More dollars out of my pocket for the same thing a sheet of paper can do? http://www.clavius.org/envradintro.html HOW TO SHIELD AGAINST RADIATION This is where the difference between radiation types becomes important. Wave radiation requires thick, heavy shielding. It requires considerably less material to block particles. In general, the shorter the EM wavelength, the thicker and denser the shield material must be. Ultraviolet (UV) can be blocked simply by a sufficiently opaque sheet of plastic. We are all familiar with tinted sunglasses that promise to block some 97% of solar UV rays. Not much additional protection is required in space.

Great Lakes Fishery Commission We need your help! Become a sea lamprey hunter. http://glfc.org/sealamp/lampreyhunter/stopinvader.htm How you can help: Take a short tutorial and follow the instructions on the website for submitting data. http://glfc.org/sealamp/lampreyhunter/stopinvader.htm Simply follow through the 5 pages on the website. When you are out fishing you will have to record fish caught, fish with lampreys attached, fish with wounds and then submit this information through the website. Additional Information: Sea Lamprey need to be poisoned in their spawning streams to sustain ecological balance in the Lakes http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/116707109.html Sea Lamprey numbers shot up again Lake Michigan last year http://ipr.interlochen.org/ipr-news-fea ... sode/12632 Native Lamprey species co-exist peacefully in the Great Lakes http://greatlakesecho.org/2011/02/08/th ... rspective/ Great Lakes Fishery Commission, Sea Lamprey section http://www.glfc.org/sealamp/ Become a Sea Lamprey Trapper http://www.glfc.org/sealamp/catchdb/index.html

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There has always beens the odd jerk on the water and there always will be. Nothing you can do about it. Just the way it is. Try not to let it get to you. I tend to avoid other boats like the plague. The camera is good idea.