Sk8man

Very true. It (NYC vs. Upstate) is kind of the way it is in downstate Michigan vs. Upper Peninsula (UP) in terms of it being two totally different worlds

Mexico would be the LAST place I'd be going even with an M-16

Here is an interesting approach to the gun control law https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/01/10/Vermont-lawmaker-puts-focus-on-gun-laws-with-bill-to-ban-cellphones/7821578676884/?mpst=4

Yeah Be patient, give careful instructions beforehand and "play nice" because if she becomes "agitated" you'll end up with kinks before getting it in the water

Interestingly the diagram of the bills status has changed from the other day when I looked at it. Previously it appeared as though the bill was on its way to the Emperor for approval and the codes committee designation was missing

It also requires a mental health evaluation and drug testing as well as 5 hrs of instruction. What do you think the probabilities are connected with actual effective implementation? But that never stops them from forcing unfunded mandates on localities which they can't afford ( just witness the education debacle). A question i have there is what has happened to the billions of dollars from the state *wont let me type L O T T O*, scratch offs etc. that was supposed to go to education? It was put into the general fund which is like giving kids a pinata at a birthday party to distribute as desired.

I agree but the person who slashes homeless folks with a knife shouldn't be allowed to possess a knife either. There are a lot of unstable people out there who shouldn't have access to firearms or dangerous implements of any type. This is a very different situation than imposing restrictions that make absolutely no sense on law abiding owners of firearms that may no longer hunt yet will required to buy a hunting license is patently absurd as this isn't by far the only reason to own a firearm (e.g. self protection, shooting clays and target shooting as a pastime etc.). I spent 4 years as a policeman in the military, fired expert with every weapon they had at the time, spent countless hours on the firing range, and there were very few people even with that level of training there that could score 90 percent accuracy as proposed by this law for the average citizen. It makes no sense whatsoever because how would you be able to even practice if you were unqualified to use the firearm in the first place. There are over 300 million guns in the U.S. alone already and to think that illegitimate gun possessors are going to pay any attention to or even care about restrictions of any type (e.g. gang members, drug dealers, the mentally ill,and various other professional criminals) is absurd. The fact is that the government is overreaching by proposing this unrealistic and ridiculous set of restrictions on legitimate gun ownership is foolish at the very least. Its primary obligation is to protect the safety of ALL of New York's citizens (not just those downstate). Most of the law enforcement officers in upstate that I have talked with about the issue don't support the so-called SAFE Act let alone this hodge podge assortment of unrealistic ideas that would be impossible to fully monitor. The problems of mass shootings and violence are not related to gun ownership per se. it is embedded in our culture and exacerbated by media coverage, (the frequent mentioning of "fear" by adults and media (many of these incidents arappear to be "copycat" in nature), pervasive violent depictions in movies, in the evening news, in video games (especially in un-monitored conditions by teenagers and youth), the influences of gangs and drug culture, cartels etc. We live in a violent culture, and we keep perpetuating the violence and are becoming numb to it, anxiety ridden, and respond like an open gland to everything instead of dealing with the actual sources of violence which is complicated and expensive and has little true support from our government at many levels. It is easier to appear as though you are doing something about the problem by making more laws affecting law abiding citizens which you have administrative control over (gun registration, background information, fingerprints etc.) without a background understanding of what you are doing (knowledge of the firearms, their actual use, or other factors such as the realistic need for self-protection especially given the rural nature of this part of the state. There are many emergency situations that require direct immediate action on the part people living upstate frequently miles and many minutes away from law enforcement response. So my question is how does buying a hunting license in order to own a gun for one thing relate to such a situation? The downstate fear mongers generating these laws have a very different environment. Do real and completely thorough background checks, prevent access to guns by youth and folks that shouldn't possess them, safeguard guns as a duty of gun ownership, Go after those criminals that possess illegal guns, exert more control over the depiction of violence and violent acts in the various forms available in our culture. Make available competent mental health services truly accessible by the public. Currently these services are nearly non-existent or inaccessible because of some antiquated laws relating to "privacy" concerns such that even family members aren't able to get their people help without first coming to the attention of law enforcement. Will these things ever be implemented? No because they are too complicated and too expensive. The money is better spent on revamping a bridge downstate and re-naming it after your father, and spending millions on signage for the Thruway that the feds tell you you can't have up, and fancy subway tiles installed while folks are being molested and the infrastructure is falling apart and homelessness is at an all time high. Sorry for the tirade but this gun control stupidity has been grating on my nerves for sometime now....

Or your wife nudges you in bed after you have yelled "fish on" a couple times

The word infringement mean to impede, advance beyond the usual limit, impinge, encroach etc. The proposed law certainly meets this definition as it clearly intends to impose unrealistic limits on law abiding citizens with the probable purpose of discouraging gun ownership.

I think it is too late for that. It is going to the Emperor for approval (passed both houses) Hopefully will end in front of an impartial judge and be declared unconstitutional.

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It has been clear all along even prior to the so-called "SAFE Act" that these baboons in Albany and their silver back baboon leader know absolutely nothing about firearms or reasons for owning them. They know even less about their duties and responsibilities as our elected representatives and what constitutes infringement on Constitutional rights of New York's citizenry. The political hacks are a total embarrassment to all of us and are totally out of touch with reality. Emperor Cuomo wants firearms removed from civilian use and let everyone else fend for themselves in terms of personal protection yet we the tax payers provide him with full 24/7 protection at our expense. Something is very wrong with this picture. This government is not serving the best interest of the people as they are too busy serving themselves. Pretty disgusting really.

They are pretty magnificent "beasts" aren't they?

Guess I need to read more carefully before throwing my 2 cents in

Hybrid between NP and Musky?

Maybe this will be the day Rob. You've been paying your dues

No use crying over spilled milk. My wife and I are die hard Bills fans but despite the fact that they played a good first half they faultered in the second half and did not play up to par or as well as the Texans. There were questionable calls in the first half as well and the Bills were luckily on the good end of things. The Bills have shown a lot of progress this season and are commended for it but they are also not ready for "prime time" YET (as in a Superbowl appearance). They are a young team with plenty of "gifts" but they need more time together and further development of those gifts and especially Josh Allen. He has the makings of a great quarterback in terms of native ability, a strong throwing arm but he needs to develop better control in terms of consistent accuracy. The Bills need some taller pass receivers so that they can get the "jump balls" better from the high throws. Josh Allen needs to learn that a lot of the success in getting up the field relates to shorter screen passes and that high throws long range are not always the best method for gaining ground and are "risky" and should be used more sparingly and selectively.. The main strategy of developing their primary game plans around Josh Allen is both a benefit and liability because if he gets taken out it is very difficult to re-align things around another quarterback.....fine when it is working but they don't have a lot of depth YET to their second team line-up either. So much for armchair quarterbacking from someone old enough to be Brady's father

Sweet!