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Rob gave you the best advice
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If you have inset rod holders in the gunwales near where pictured on this boat use gimbal mounts with swivel bases attached to them and mount them in those. A lot of pros and few cons for that approach as there is no drilling, easy portability, etc. I have four of the internal mounts so if fishing solo I can use the two nearest the seats for riggers without too much traveling toward the back. If need be I can run 4 riggers. I also have dual rod holders mounted that I can switch out two riggers for running wires or inlines. Again, no extra holes in the boat, flexibility, and portability. The riggers can be positioned 90 degrees 180 and and 45 degrees and booms extended as desired. The electric hookups are internally wired with 4 connections. (This is the only pic that had a fairly clear shot of the back of the boat)
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In the past I tried a couple of the Berkeley clip on counters and I ended up throwing them out in the trash. The line/wire kept popping out of the counter. In the old days before counters I used to use different colored yarn.. just a given colored knot tied at intervals (e.g. 25 ft) and then super glued to the wire. They last a while at least and give a "guesstimate" where your at. I also tried spray painting at intervals and it works for a while but wears off. Here is another possibility (bt may not be real flea resistant) https://www.ebay.com/itm/300M-100-PE-Braided-Saltwater-Freshwater-Fishing-Lines-4-Strands-Wire-6LB-100LB/252489428904?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Decf507abc81d4145a12fa7b2b7421ce2%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D332043332088%26itm%3D252489428904%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
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Sweet! A 20 incher is a real nice fish. My buddy used to own a place on the Black river with several hundred feet of frontage with a small water falls with a nice pool at the base and I used to sit there and pull out brookie after brookie but none quite that big. I released most but kept a few for the frying pan (outdoors) Nothing like them with a little lemon and butter in the early morning over an open campfire. They are pretty valiant fighters on ultra-lite tackle too. That guy came from some pretty turbulent water regarding the rod in the water technique with it that fast current Nice job on the video.
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Or run Bloodrun 30 lb Sea Flee mono The 47H holds about 275 yds or so of it.and leader down with 20 lb fluoro for kings and 12 for browns. In rthe old days I only used straight 12 lb Big Game for both before fleas.
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Sold / Closed 1992 baha Reel Dilemma formerly Tall Tails
Sk8man replied to reeldilemma33's topic in Boats for Sale
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Sold / Closed 1992 baha Reel Dilemma formerly Tall Tails
Sk8man replied to reeldilemma33's topic in Boats for Sale
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Video - Fishing With Seth Green Rigs
Sk8man replied to Pete Collin's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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Video - Fishing With Seth Green Rigs
Sk8man replied to Pete Collin's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Seth Green or "thermocline" fishing is comprised of many different strategies and approaches e.g. bottom oriented vs. suspended and the setups vary greatly with each. With downrigger fishing the specific temp range can be crucial for setting lines but with rig fishing you basically "straddle" the thermocline layer such that you cover above within and below it. The thermocline itself can vary throughout the lake snaking up and down and with say a Fishhawk X4 series you can note specifics and adjust lines accordingly on downriggers to try to stay at the part of it you are interested in according to the species targeted. A Fishhawk TD can be used before you set Seth Green lines to get an estimate of temp profiles and to determine where to concentrate your lines according to species sought starting out but as you troll down the lake the thermocline layer may be quite different in parts of the lake or at shallower vs. deeper water. A Seth Green rig if set properly can pretty much straddle it continuously throughout the troll as a usual setup covers the first 100 ft or so where the entire thermocline on the Fingers usually appears encompassed within that range during most of the season when rigs are used. Fine tuning can be done to concentrate leaders within a specific range on the rig line if the rig line is set up with flexibility built in (e.g. number of bead chains and intervals etc.) so you can more precisely target a given species e.g. rainbows vs. lakers. The Seth Green approach in general is sort of like a shotgun vs. .22 -
Video - Fishing With Seth Green Rigs
Sk8man replied to Pete Collin's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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Video - Fishing With Seth Green Rigs
Sk8man replied to Pete Collin's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
I normally run 3 five leader rigs when by myself and for the past nearly 50 years I have used 4x5 one inch styrofoam blocks to set up my lure presentations ahead of time and usually have about six or seven sets comprising 30-35 lures pre-set up this way in a small duffle bag ready to change out as needed. When I get a fish on I reel up to the first leader and roll it up on a block and drop it on the deck and quickly go to the next one. It is pretty automatic and I don't even have to think about t at this point The rod is often wedged between my knee and the rod holder with the drag set to pay out as necessary or else place the rod back in the holder and do so for all leaders till I get to the fish. I gather them up and then put them back out and throw a rubber band around the empty blocks if windy otherwise just pile there on the deck in three piles of 5. I put a slot in each block to hold the wire clip -
I used one back in the mid seventies as described above and although pretty primitive it did at least supply some information despite it being a simple device. It had color bands going from green to red (not specific miles per hr). What it did allow however was being able to return to the approximate speed that a fish was caught (and coordinated with a color on the scale) which was a step up from a total "guesstimate". What I did was to carry small very thin strips of tape with me and when I caught a fish I'd put a strip on the exact place on the color bar relative to my speed (as soon as the fish hit) and then return to that place on the scale so even if I slowed the motor etc. I could return to the same speed (or close to it). Again, better than nothing but not much better I believe I gave mine away in about 1978
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Shark Cannonballs Extreme Shark
Sk8man replied to Earl28's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
I enjoy stirring the pot as much as anyone Does a heavier shark weight attract more fish than a lighter one? When you get down to it none of these things have been scientifically proven by controlled experimental approaches and most for good reason: there are too many uncontrolled variables involved; thus it is basically speculation when either side of the issue is set forth as the answer. So what do we have at the end? "Personal preference" and speculation based on our own experiences and nobody really "knows best" -
Rick's advice is well taken as the accuracy of the counter allows you to consistently return to a given depth as it is an "absolute" measure relating to the turns of the wheel. The display on the screen of a depth is more of a relative measure and doesn't allow the same level of consistency because there are many more variables affecting it's accuracy.
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200 ft is pretty standard in usage. Usually folks commonly fish within 150 ft or so with them and for much of the year less than that. The 400 ft rolls are mainly for "curiosity seekers" in my view but it also allows someone some room for "error" if they have a kink or other misfortune requiring shortening the cable.. What would be interesting is when the battery goes dead on the rigger and you are experimenting 350 ft or so
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Video - Fishing With Seth Green Rigs
Sk8man replied to Pete Collin's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
WTG Pete. Great introduction to Seth Green rigs and entertaining video (as always). For folks interested. I have a full chapter on Seth Greens with details in the book I'm writing (almost finished) on Trout and Salmon Fishing in the Finger Lakes and Lake Ontario so that will provide some written information as well. Pete's video spurs me on to finish up. Hopefully Pete's video here will spark renewed interest in this "old school" method of fishing (my favorite as well). Thanks Pete.. -
As for the original question regarding fight: feel of the fight is more determined by the rod than reel used. I would think that you wouldn't need 22 lb drag on the Fingers more so on Lake O and for a lot less money you could have a worthy reel that would hold the wire. Your money though
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I should think that 1,000 ft wire should fit on it OK. I have an Okuma 30 that takes it.
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Just run the wire off 300 reels and use medium weight downrigger rods with a twilli on the tip. I have a couple setups that are about this way for the Fingers and they work fine and I adjust leader strength according to what I run from them.