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And the mystery continues stay tuned....someone may have an answer The only thing I can think of is that when the downrigger line (or lines with a slider) is in the Black release and the release is directly fastened to the wire above the weight the lure action may be jerking the wire frequently and repeatedly because the impeller on the probe (water friction driven) is being jerked as well causing a false reading (readings are updated and probably "averaged" within the span of measurement time) which is slightly higher than actual speed at the weight. When the release is on the weight itself the lure action and "jerking" may be cancelled out by the weight of the ball itself countering-acting it. Just an armchair guess....
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Using multiple reports and then looking at those that give an hourly breakdown of the wind velocity and direction can sometimes be useful. NymphO did hit the nail on the head though in terms of track record as they all can be inaccurate frequently. They seem to generally be more accurate on direction than wind speed too. One of the prime determinants for me is exactly where I am going to fish whether on a given Finger Lake or Lake O. The projected wind direction is the major determinant for me especially when taking a chance on velocity. The decision can be quite different for example on Lake O depending on where you intend to launch and fish out of. If you are located mid lake on the south shore and the wind is out of the NW or perhaps NE or due N (at any speed) the odds of having a good time out there aren't in your favor. Even an excessive southerly wind may be fine out to a certain depth or distance north but out deeper you may have white caps when the wind speed picks up because it has time and space to build. Having a "plan B" is always important and luckily we have so many other waters relatively nearby. Back when they had the ESLO derbies in the Spring I always launched from Sodus Point because I knew that if the wind cranked up I could usually fish the bay (and even that could get rough sometimes forcing me to sit on the tailgate of my truck sipping a beer hoping things would lay down). Back then there wasn't all the info available on weather conditions as there is today so you could have a long journey to the lake from home before you even knew the actual conditions (e.g. no webcams or buoy info etc.). So I guess regardless of the current limitations we've discussed it is still a lot better stuff to evaluate than in the past, so maybe taking things with a grain of salt and appreciating what we presently have is worth considering
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Sold / Closed 4 cannon mag 10a downriggers w/ 36” booms & swivel bases.
Sk8man replied to yellowgold's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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There are many ways to do this and I'm sure others have ideas here but this is what I have used for about 30 years. The rubber bands can be found in craft stores or perhaps dollar stores, the shrink wrap at automotive stores, the duolock snaps can be ordered from many places (largest possible size), trot line clips (used for set lines or trot lines for catfish etc.I used to get at Netcraft (online). Bought a bunch a long time ago so not sure if they still carry them) P.S. They carry a lot more items in their printed catalog than are listed on their website)
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Some comments for folks that haven't had the experience of fishing solo or are new to it: The solo fisherman is a strange animal... we always want to maximize our chances of catching fish, but minimize our limitations in the process and often fail to see that what we are doing is all about "risk management". After stacking and using cheaters both sliding and fixed for more than 40 years and fishing solo for much of it it seems that there are a few aspects to it that become essential in determining the outcome: a) anticipation of potential outcomes when setting up ( including multiple fish at the same time on the same rod or two rods), b) how to maintain boat control and speed while fighting the fish, and c) netting considerations. Situation a involves planning the exact set-up of the rods and lines beforehand and anticipating what might happen and how to react to multiple fish - usually with fish on multiple rods you have to determine quickly which fish you might be able to let take out drag, adjusting it properly and staying in the rod holder while dealing with the other. Issue b involves the use of an autopilot for many folks now in reducing the load by one person which you don't have - but for many of us without the option it involves letting the boat go with the wind for easier control while slowing the motor enough to allow the fish to be "towed' by the weight of the boat a bit tiring them out more quickly. Most of the time you will not be doing "catch and release" with kings either as they will be spent. Issue c involves thinking beforehand about how you are going to accomplish netting while holding the rod as well, and how you are going to position yourself within the boat (and not outside it). I used to use long leads on my attractor set-ups and then hand line fish into the net and this still can work for smaller fish but for angry kings risks of losing the fish or getting severe cuts to your fingers are increased ten fold. I keep the total length to just short of my rod length (e.g. 6-7 ft or so for an 8 1/2 ft. rod) and set the rod in the rod holder with the drag adjusted so that it is a little tighter than usual but still below breaking strength of the line once the fish is tired and more cooperative...but positioning of the rod holder is something to consider beforehand too. As far as the free-slider vs. the fixed slider I think the free slider has significant advantages both action-wise and in terms of "simplicity" over the fixed approach, but with the fixed approach using the rubber band - selection of the specific rubber band is important. I use the little rubber bands used by females for their hair as they break fairly easily and they are very small and can be reeled right into the reel through the line guide if necessary without messing with the remaining band on the line with the fish on the other end. Using a fixed or free slider cheater above an attractor, or with a stickbait at the end of a mainline can be done but it often leads to various tangling problems especially with fish like kings and probably not worth the effort or risk of losing or messing up your equipment. Again, just my own two cents thrown in for what it is worth
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I was wondering when the gator would come sniffing around It is reputed that he can smell that KFC chicken miles away out on the ice too
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Guess you can tell who has fished Erie lately and who hasn't and I sure forgot about the silver bass.....guess I'd better stick to the Fingers giving advice Jim is probably more OCD than I am for the perch and walleyes at least....
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I use all ultra-lite rods both graphite and composites as I like the feel through them as well as the easy handling in the boat of the shorter 5 1/2 ft rods but most of my buddies use much longer (6 12-7 1/2 ft rods) as they lend themselves to casting farther yet offering sensitivity at the tip. It is really a personal preference issue but should be based on being able to feel the light bites and mouthing that occurs with perch and walleyes. Being able to detect them is what separates the men from the boys. As an example Fenwicks are real good sensitive rods but they are expensive and buying the most expensive rod isn't always a guarantee that it is best for what you are doing. To a degree you can assess the "feel" of things right in the store of what seems to suit you but being able to feel the most minute change in the line transmitted through the rod is what you are looking for and you pretty much have to have it set up to fully with the line you are using determine that. Sensitivity is the keyword. Once you have a sensitive rod you need to know what to do with it as well and even minor variations in set-ups and techniques or movements of the line or bait can make all the difference in results. This is true for both jigging and fishing natural bait. You'll gain this best through experimentation and actual experience and practice. Youtube videos may give you a little head start idea-wise but actual experience is the best teacher.
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If me I'd use 10 lb braid with a 3 or 4 ft 4-6 lb fluoro leader
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Jakey Baby you lucked out getting that info. Jim is half Perch and half Walleye and you can take his information to the bank (good as gold)
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Sold / Closed Hammerhead Spinners/Spin-N-Glow Rigs/Gambler Rigs Lot
Sk8man replied to On the Hook's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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Anyone know if Troutman87 is still online?
Sk8man replied to SmellsLikeFishNH's topic in Tackle and Techniques
You have a PM I sent you his phone number -
Sodus - Hughes report
Sk8man replied to Frogger's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Cayuga Headed out Saturday - Canandaigua or Cayuga?
Sk8man replied to Dan M's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Try right out in front of Dean's where it drops off to check things out.Usually a variety of fish there. We usually do well on the rainbows and salmon across the lake near Wells College (Aurora) just be careful with your dipsys as it comes up very abruptly there like a wall on the shelf. If you are unsure of where it is just point your boat to the right a little and head for the eastern shore and you may pick up a few lakers along the way -
Cayuga Headed out Saturday - Canandaigua or Cayuga?
Sk8man replied to Dan M's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Small to medium light weight flutter spoons work best trolled pretty fast for rainbows. It is a good place to experiment.....different sizes, types, action (don't be afraid to bend one and play with it ). You may also wan t try short leads at first and then gradually lengthen them as the day moves on. Keep changing up your speed until you find something that clicks and make a lot of turns and if you notice current run on a diagonal to it or against it. Not sure with this latest weather and wind where the thermocline will be located but often it runs from about 40 -75 or so about now. Run your stuff deeper for lakers. They usually respond well to both flashers or Spin docs with flies of spoons. I'd use magnum spoons down real deep but smaller or mediums for everything else. As the sun gets higher in the sky move out toward the middle and run stuff a little deeper. A s I mentioned before I haven't been out here on awhile so this is just based on previous experience so keep experimenting. Give your spoons a work out best way to tell Good luck. -
Cayuga Headed out Saturday - Canandaigua or Cayuga?
Sk8man replied to Dan M's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
If the weather is decent forget about the north end of Canandaigua it will probably be packed on the weekend especially. South end if you go early AM should be better. I live right here within 5 minutes of the north end launch at Canandaigua and fish Dean's and Lake O at this time of year if that tells you anything Fleas are reportedly bad as are the weed pads floating around in Canandaigua. -
Sodus - Hughes report
Sk8man replied to Frogger's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Cool at least we can scoot out in the main part of the bay to save time now Brian. Thanks for the update
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