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The Accudepth Plus' and Sealine SG's are the same reel inside at least for the larger ones (e.g. 57's)
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Looking for a shanty!
Sk8man replied to Big Matt 7's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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No Perch in Canandaigua Lake
Sk8man replied to Slack High Sportfishing's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Along the lines of doing something. I sent the URL of this thread to Brad Hammers at Region 8 as an "FYI" hoping to spark some interest in the issue.. -
No Perch in Canandaigua Lake
Sk8man replied to Slack High Sportfishing's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
When you look at about any situation where money is connected to a resource human nature and greed comes into play. The solution here isn't really complicated - just bring the regs for this particular species into alignment with many other species protecting them while spawning, no selling on recreational licenses, and making the size and daily limits the same as for Crappies. It could go a long way in helping out. The correction for the overharvesting is obvious...but my hunch is it could be greatly reduced with those changes when the money factor is removed (and the formal restaurant side of it should be solved as well) and proper monitoring. -
Who hits the ice for lakers?
Sk8man replied to Big Matt 7's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Some good descriptive info in the above posts. Just as in perch and panfish jigging everyone has their favorite "moves" The use of a flasher was mentioned and for this type of fishing (e.g. over deep water) it can be VERY useful and instructional. Just peering down the hole in the shallow water for perch you can learn volumes about perch and panfish behavior and that is something that can make a ton of difference in results jigging. Unfortunately it isn't that easy in 80-150 ft of water so that is where the portable flasher or other more sophisticated unit comes in. Joe mentioned some of the jigging things to try, and although jigging "blind" can yield results the other half of equation for consistent success is figuring out the behavior of the fish in general and the one you are after in particular.The flasher gives you this "eyesight" capability in the deep water. On the flasher especially with a ZOOM function you are able to "see" the fish in terms of its relative distance from the jig/bait and assess movement toward or away from it in response to your jigging movement (e.g. the ones like Joe mentioned). You get to make judgments about which specific movements the fish is responding to or being turned off by and with experience you can tel when they are about to bite which is a pretty cool advantage. On a more sophisticated graphic display you can gain other important information such as a clearer definition of the position of the fish, and its path toward or away from the jig, the "following" path and a little better idea of its location near bottom or suspended etc. and again you are able to judge whether the fish is interested in the specific jigging movements you are making and allows you to experiment. It is excciting as H watching the different behaviors of the fish and it can be quite different for the different species. I have caught Atlantics in shallow water on the Fingers for example only a foot or two under the ice while looking down the hole visually, and if I had not been doing so I never would have known they were there as they just sucked in my perch jig without moving even the line itself -
No Perch in Canandaigua Lake
Sk8man replied to Slack High Sportfishing's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
The problem has many aspects to it not just as simple as that. Even the size of perch is a factor....the regualtion would make more sense if it was compatible with the existing 9 inch 25 limit regulation on Crappies on the Finger Lakes for example. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade or create new laws..just lining out something for folks to think about. I 've talked with a lot of other fishermen who have expressed the same concerns and not all of them are on the forum. -
No Perch in Canandaigua Lake
Sk8man replied to Slack High Sportfishing's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
It would be a good start. It is my hope that the DEC shall in the near future re-visit the whole panfish issue. Times have changed drastically from the time that the regulations were formulated. The advent of the Internet (I've been on here before the Web and pics able to be directly displayed publically or videos), the vast improvements in technology such as depth finders and underwater cameras, and especially the ease of GPS recording, and a huge improvement in the specific information available has changed the entire fishing landscape and the regulations haven't kept up with the times as far as panfish are concerned. There is a large difference regarding fishing for them schooled up in bays and trolling the open water for trout in the large bodies of water, and even with respect to ice fishing. All of these things have increased dramatically along with the general human population increases and numbers of fisherpersons fishing for them. The perch represent a rather special class within the fishery as they can not only be sold, but they can be harvested even during the spawning period. Crappies have a daily limit of 25 and the perch should likewise be included as a consistent general daily limit on all panfish in the Finger lakes at least. Lake O and Lake Erie are a different matter. The 50 per day limit becomes excessive in light of all of the above for the Fingers and certainly is more than a family will consume in one day. -
No Perch in Canandaigua Lake
Sk8man replied to Slack High Sportfishing's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Scott - Iknow what you are saying. I did have contact with the guy who seems like a very good and well intentioned guy by the way, and I let him know the video was well done, but that showing the cottages and specific shoreline areas at the south end of the lake and naming the lake is what I think is problemmatic. I am also convinced that he had no knowledge whatsoever of the situation and was just trying to share good info with the forum members and I applaude him for that. -
No Perch in Canandaigua Lake
Sk8man replied to Slack High Sportfishing's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
I know looking initially at this post some assumptions may be made, but underneath are some very real issues that vary greatly from the large expanse of lake Ontario and its bays. There are guys that come from all over and the Rochester area to Canandaigua; some of whom are there nearly everyday perch fishing and selling the perch. This fishing pressure has become much more intense in recent years with the apparent decline or deterioration of the perch fishing on Seneca. They take several limits sometimes because nobody is there to check. I have personally seen a couple of guys there at the launch that had way over their limit and a good number of the fish were in the 7 inch or so range included. Right up until the mid 2000's you could cruise around the lake in the shallows and huge schools of perch would scatter everywhere. Now you see an occasional small school of usually small perch if any at all. Yes there are still perch there but they are under a lot of fishing and overharvesting pressure. Some of the vehicles at the launch leave late morning and then reappear in the afternoon. It doesn' take a detective to figure out what that means as it happens routinely. If someone doesn't live nearby it would go unnoticed. These smaller lakes are a very different situation than the bays of Lake O which I have also fished for years. The fish can much more easily be replenished in the bays by fish from that huge lake. When guys come to lakes like Canandaigua and use cameras to spot the largest schools of the largest perch (in large part female spawners) pretty much all year long unrestricted; it becomes very clear that the resource is not infinite as some folks wish to believe. Froggers comment is directly on target. A lot of us release the jumbo spawners and keep fish 11-12 or so inches...the dinks go back in as do the real big girls. These guys decimating the perch fishery for money have no regard for the fishery or maintaining it, or saving it for the future fisherpersons. They just move to another part of the lake or another lake until that is also used up. I'm all for the new grocery store ontherise but the selection becomes somewhat limted when someone throws a grenade inside. -
Are you sure they are mice and not VOLES? Big difference in behavior and feeding. A few years ago I trapped 68 of them around my house and lawn during the month of March. A couple got in the cellar and I got them on glue boards, but they don't respond to peanut butter and the usual stuff on traps. The ones I trapped outside (before they could get in) I discovered that they have poor eyesight so I carefully checked out every trail they were using and placed standard mousetraps strategically at all Y" s or junctions, near corners of the foundation etc. and I had several each day that bumbled their way into them (NO BAIT). They are much more destructive than mice and they also carry ticks and other "wonderful" things and if they die inside they smell to high heaven. Until I discovered what they were I was having little luck with the baited trap approach and that is why I'm mentioning this. Thye look a lot like mice but they have stubbier and thicker tails and smaller ears.
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Welcome to LOU. I think you'll find it a bit different here than other boards. Great bunch of people willing to share information and ideas and help out others.
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FYI apparently Emperor Cuomo is at it again...
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in LOUnited For Change
I'm not defending Trump or the NRA or the positions of extreme gun advocates for that matter. I worked as a mental health professional for more than 30 years and am a Vietnam Era veteran. Being a veteran does not necessarily predispose someone to gun violence, but in some cases the things experienced by some vets may create mental instability, and it is well known that many of these problems are missed, and not properly followed up on or effectively dealt with in our society in general, or by the military in particular. The reporting process in this issue is unreliable, inconsistently applied or not forwarded to other relevant agencies, is sometimes non-existant, and definitely flawed and discontinuous in many cases. Our democratic society with Freedom of Speech, Second Ammendment Rights, and the heavy emphasis on Free Will and Freedom of Expression, and States Rights carries with it significant problems in the area of societal control as well as the many positives, and the consistent monitoring and intervention of various authorities is complicated and based on often solitary or questionable incomplete facts or acts. In other words, as soon as someone does something that others perceive to be problematic, perhaps bizarre, or even potentially dangerous the hands of many agencies are tied by existing Constitutional considerations, combined with inadequate processes and facilities, and/or budgets with which to deal with the problems. In New York State for example, the previous mental health facilities complete with monitoring and oversight functions regarding "patients" either on an inpatient or outpatient basis have been disbanded without replacement processes being in place over many years. There are many people out there without such necessary treatment, medications, follow-up or monitoring, and it is nearly impossible to get people into existing treatment situations or facilities; especially against their will. Much of this relates to previous abuses of power exerted against individual freedoms by bureaucracy, Constitutional issues are highly involved, and most of all budgetary and financial considerations. Some previous decisions by our government has put money before people in a short sighted way and we are left with the societal problems which now are more complicated by many things (opioid crisis only one recent example) as well as much more expensive to try to fix. At present we as a society don't seem to have any competent mechanism to cope with this mess; especially as long as the government puts building expensive bridges and naming them after their father instead of focusing on the real problems confronting us. Can you tell I've had 3 cups of coffee today? -
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FYI apparently Emperor Cuomo is at it again...
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in LOUnited For Change
It may be something propelled by social media Ben but make no mistake many perhaps well intentioned but greatly misguided. illogical, legislators having virtually no actual firearms knowledge are formulating restrictions based entirely on emotion;not educated informed knowledge of firearms per se. The idea of firearms control in this country in and of itself is illogical given the sheer number of guns out there already and the fact that the crimes involved committed by unstable and/or criminal elements of our society do not pay any attention to laws or social norms. The problems of violence and crimes in this country is much more complex than trying to control legitimate gun owners rights and the people formulating laws seem incapable of understanding the actual narure and complexity of the problem so they default to giving the appearance of "doing something" regardless of the fact that the things they come up with make no sense. Mental illness and criminal activity are at the actual roots of the problem but they seem much beyond the scope of the legislative process to deal with. Social media merely exascerbates the emotional argument from both sides. Cuomo seizees every opportunity to further his own political ambitions and this leads to further emotional turbulance on both sides of the isssue and further clouds any potential progress toward reasonable solutions. -
" Flourocarbon leaders a must" very true and especially with the clear water conditions. Another thing worth mentioning is that rainbows well also respond to worm harnesses trolled at a distance or even from downriggers with long leads using either live nightcrawlers or rubber worms in the 5 inch size.
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Rainbows have a pretty diverse diet - perhaps unlike Pacific salmon. They respond to a wide variety of lures both sticks and spoons and often seem to prefer spoons in the red/orange range or blue/silver, plain silver or silver/brass, and sometimes copper. I think the key is often size; especially in places other than the Great Lakes proper where alewives are a mainstay and get up to that 5-7 inch range. On the Finger Lakes small Suttton spoons (e.g. like the West River size and even smaller) work well. The silver plating on the Suttons (or other spoons for that matter) tends to show up well underwater for longer distances so that can be an advantage too. I've had the best luck over the years with spoons in the 2-3 inch range regardless of color or brand of spoon and even the large rainbows respond to them. Likewise stickbaits such as Rapalas or "look alikes" in that smaller size range seem to work best trolled back aways and at fairly fast speeds. Jointed F-7 size Rapalas seem to tolerate higher speeds and turns better than solid bodies. I usually use a large split shot or two about 3 ft ahead of them to keep them under a bit. I honestly think that the action of the lure is more important than the color most of the time whether spoon or stick. In many places rainbows feed on minnows of various types so keeping the lures down to size makes sense. On Lake O where the larger baitfish predominate the larger sized lures make much sense.
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FYI apparently Emperor Cuomo is at it again...
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in LOUnited For Change
I just received this email from a buddy and figured it coordinates with my initial post. I do not know the exact origin of it and it was from 2014 but the content appears "familiar" and has some things in it off potential concern right now. Date: November 7, 2018 at 3:33:08 PM Subject: I think you all better take this serious. Now that the elections are over and Cuomo is in as is all the other ALBANY DEMOCRATS, and worst of all, we lost the NY STATE GOP SENATE MAJORITY, there is nothing to stop all the submitted gun laws and SAFE ACT 2 from ALL BECOMING LAWS of the NEW YORK LAND. Thus, start thinking of what your next moves will be. good luck, it's going to be UGLY. Maybe some of those NY gun owners that have no problem with the current Safe Act will wake up. Cuomo To Sign SAFE ACT 2 Into Law If He Gets Reelected Posted by Tony Oliva on Oct 13, 2014 in Elections, Email Featured, Featured, Legislation, Tyranny, video | 45 Comments 17.9KSHARES Share Tweet Plus If Governor Cuomo is reelected the framework is all ready in place for passage of SAFE ACT 2. While the Cuomo administration is hesitant to refer to it under that name during an election cycle, it will still be one of the first things he does upon his new term even if he has to manipulate the legislative process again in order to ram it through. Here are the 10 key points of SAFE ACT 2 that will punish law abiding citizens, legal businesses and in general diminish the sparse amount of liberty that remains in the increasingly appropriate named “Empire State”. My commentary italicized. There are some other points, expanding on penalties of SAFE ACT 1 and broadening terms therein but this is the meat and potatoes of what a Cuomo reelection will look like for the citizens of New York. Apparently, SAFE Act 1 was only the prologue and SAFE Act 2 will be the further advancement of the radical gun control ideology that Gov Cuomo holds so dear. To allow Gov. Cuomo to be reelected will be an injustice of the highest order. But it is not only an injustice to New Yorkers but for all gun owners and those who believe in liberty in America. To quote the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. (he himself a victim of gun control like the SAFE Act when he was denied a carry permit): It is for this reason that, even though I am a Pennsylvanian, I am taking a personal interest in supporting the man who has vowed to repeal the SAFE Act, not expand upon it. -
FYI apparently Emperor Cuomo is at it again...
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in LOUnited For Change
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FYI apparently Emperor Cuomo is at it again...
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in LOUnited For Change
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FYI apparently Emperor Cuomo is at it again...
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in LOUnited For Change