Sk8man

A main reason I use the 40 mono rather than fluoro for this particular thing is that the mono has a little stretch which is desirable here when using wire which has none. I used to use fluoro but found that it is less forgiving, and brittle - especially in cold weather .I've never had one of these setups break but I have with fluoro. Just a preference issue I guess.

40 lb Big Game mono breaking strength is closer to 50

Dances you have a PM

Jason depending on what these actually are and their condition they may be worth a lot more than $20 so maybe get an estimate from someone before selling too quickly.

Does leave a little bit tio the imagination doesn't it?

I think I saw you out there Jeff but didn't fully realize it at the time. I whizzed past in my Whaler on joyride with my wife and daughter....I was jealous of you folks fishing

The way to go - Teleflex Sea Star Hydraulic.

Nicely said Mike.

Brand new alkaline batteries in the probe? Is there a loose wire to the batteries?Battery compartment cover screwed down tight? placement of transducer away from anything that has a frequency within range of 70khz?

Silver Hoarde with the red mouth one close to the ball about 8 ft and the other about 15 ft back. Can also be run off shorter coppers (200-300's) or leadcore down the chute or even toplined in shallower water, but sometimes they can be too much to handle right on inline planers

If you use either the shark type or torpedo weights you can usually get away with 10 lb weights if your speed isn't real fast. The current was pretty bad out there yesterday with a down speed reaching 3.3 sometimes while surface speed 1.9 or 2.0 but you can often adjust things by trolling diagonally and reducing your surface speed.

It is unfortunate that this thread has taken such a "polarized" path when the actual reality of the situation is that someone has lost their life and a family has been devastated by that fact. Whether the perceived attitude of the involved fishermen was one of overconfidence, "arrogance", or perceived "stupidity"by others is irrelevant at this point. The public information on this incident seems scant thus far so the potential learning benefit is unknown and that is what should be focused on...whether we can learn something specific from the situation that might enable others to avoid a similar fate other than "Don't go out there in rough water". That is what should be sought after here rather than making assumptions and casting blame regardless of one's perception of the situation in the absence of valid concrete information. The basic fact remains that anyone can get into trouble out there including charter captains - and "Mother Nature hath no fury as a woman scorned" and Lake Ontario is no exception- no matter what sized boat,or the experience of the operator; she is unforgiving of mistakes.

Yes and at least it wasn't within the first 4 hrs of the Trout Derby (taking you out of the entire 3 day derby) and 45 mph winds come up and both engines won't do the trick and you need to be towed 16 miles back to the launch against the wind by your fishing buddy who busts your bls for years to come and labels himself as your "savior" and puts that label on his cooler on the back of his boat

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