Sk8man

Sounds as though your timing was good Mike. I used to stay there during the Fall derbies and the launch at Oak Orchard could be really crazy with folks fishing right there in the channel near the launch Seems as though there are always some real good fish up that way though.

Mike SNSH is probably right it could be worth the trip to Hank's so you'd know for sure what is going on.

I think that the issue of runing Seafoam in engines that are already fully broken in is separate from what the original post concerns. It might be wise to break the motor in strictly according to the manual procedure before introducing or using ANY additive - even from the standpoint of if there were something problematic that turned up during the break-in process it could complicate sorting out the origin of the problem. I would also be concerned about the integrity of the warranty under such circumstances. Why take unnecessary chances regardless of whether the stuff is potentially useful or not?

Mike I'm no mechanic but maybe check the lean rich fuel mixture position of the knob and the choke for starters? Is the bulb still going soft in the fuel line and air getting in?

L&M in Port Bay has the best reputation in the area and is right here on LOU.

I hear ya Joe

Sorry Ed I just saw your post. check your PMs

Bluefin 54 you have a PM

I'm not so sure about the DEC being the major benefactor of the money brought in from licences and sports related revenue etc. Last I knew the money was being witheld and not necessarily dedicated to the DEC efforts either. The State Albany establishment wastes much of the money it receives from the various revenue sources via the general fund concept, and a lot of our money has been contributed to the bridge named after the Emporer Andrew's father.

This does seem to be an interesting conversation...and I think the title could probably use some clarification. The title would suggest that 20 lb steelies were commonplace at some time in the past. I have fished Lake O (trolling) since the early 1970's and have fished it with some really good fishermen. I have never actually seen a 20 lb. steelhead. I have seen plenty over 10 lbs up into the teens though. I also remember some Cohos being mistaken for steelies in the earlier years One of the great things about Lake Ontario is it's ability to tolerate a lot of fishing pressure because of it's relatively large expanse and the presence of quite a few tributaries, large scale stocking efforts, and it is something to be fully appreciated and even celebrated. There is plenty of room for everyone and many styles of fishing, but no matter whether fishing the streams or the lake proper - care needs to be maintained by all to insure that the fishery is sustainable. It means great care is needed in releasing undersized or unwanted consumable fish and it applies to both options. We all have an investment in keeping the fishery viable and vibrant. It doesn't take much imagination to realize what the impact of the poachers and greedy uncaring others can do to this fishery. Rainbows or steelhead can be pretty fragile fish and perhaps even more care and time may be necessary on the release process and this is especially critical in the warmer water.

You are very right whaler....very different than the high secrecy of the "old days". Always a good idea to give back to the sport.....sometimes you just have to be careful about the way you do it

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