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for sale : usa Seth Green Trolling Rig/Reel
Sk8man replied to hyriverrat's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
I believe Jason is correct it is in fact mainly designed for a Seth green rig and hence the 3 compartments etc (as many of the real old timers only ran 3 leaders back then). I had one just like it when I first started out pulling rigs but mine had a base on it that was weighted so that it could rest on the floor of the boat. Some folks doid however use it to pull copper as well as pull flashers out in the Belhurst hole. It was a lot of winding up out there though from 180 ft especially. -
Wanted Looking for Diamong King Lures
Sk8man replied to dctaz37's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
These are older true Diamond Kings. In the above watermelon pics the markings aren't quite as pronounced but they are in these (which have seen some action in the past) The words Diamond King is actually stamped on them as well. -
Sounds like a simple straight forward question and it is a good one but the answer to it is a bit more complicated. In general, it depends on a) what your are running as lures, b) the species sought, c) the water conditions where fished, d) the depth of the water fished, and e) the speed (s) that the lures you are using tolerates. There are probably many other considerations as well. It pays to keep in mind that the action of your lure is affected by the distance from the weight and this is accelerated by underwater current so the closer to the weight with most lures and attractor set-ups the more action given. Usually the deeper you go with the presentation the closer to the weight you may set it. Keep in mind that with long setups e.g. 100-200 ft back there is usually a considerable bow in the line with slack so the lure may be slower to react to things such as changes in speed or direction. The target you are after may greatly influence how far back you set up; for example when seeking lake trout you may set close to the weight often just a few feet back in deep water while for wary browns in close or in clear water you may want thing over a hundred or more feet back from the weight. What this strongly suggests is that you need to experiment and understand your intended target, and closely observe the fishing conditions before deciding the distances of your set back distances; and this goes for other set-ups than downriggers as well.
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Might want to keep in mind that chemo is brutal on one's system and nausea is a major side effect so you may have to adjust your plans or amoutn of time out there.
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Best wishes for a full recovery for your wife. You've got your priorities straight...family first fishing scond
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Cool and you're very welcome. Be careful at that launch too because it can get pretty shallow there depending on water level. Good luck.
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I know docking it at the house would be the nuts, but depending on how much north it is and the size of your boat both of which which are unknown to me, I suggested trailering to Deans for two reasons: a) the deeper water is closest there whether north or south is desired and you can fish immediately right off from the ramp, and b) if the wind is from the north or south (commonly) you can choose your direction of troll to go with the wind in most cases. Again, not knowing the size of your boat this could be important as the weather lately has been real sketchy and Cayuga like Seneca can get VERY nasty, so with a smaller boat especially it can b e prudent not to be many miles away from safe harbor. As I recall (not having the map in front of me) it is quite some distance from Canoga before the deep water starts at about out from Burroughs Point at the west and Ellis on the east shore and I don't think the water to that point doesn't get over 30 or so feet before then as it is prime perch territory (e,g, Frontenac and Farleys etc.). If you have a good sized safe boat I'd make the run there and start at Burroughs out in the middle and select your desired side from there. There are bunches of pike and pickerel in that shallower stuff north of there which even running riggers shallow etc. you could be wasting time and definitely can't run the wires effectively in there.
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There are depths over 100 ft. out from Burroughs Point south of Canoga on the west side. Aurora is a ways south on the east side. If you are trailering your boat I would launch at Deans Cove on the west side as it is a straight shot down Rt89 from SF. You could then fish both north and south from there and be in potential landlock and laker territory right from in front of the launch itself and possibly be closer to getting off the lake if the weather takes a turn for the worse with a north wind. It can be productive fishing right out front of deans and taking a northerly path along the west side and then coming down the east side by Aurora. You have to be careful near Aurora as it comes up real fast out front of there like a wall so be monitoring your wires or downriggers carefully. It also comes up pretty fast on the shelf south of Deans on the west shore. Good luck.
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It will work for everything except depth at the weight because the X4 probe does not have the pressure sensor necessary for gauging the depth
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It should be noted that I have my depth finder set to 200 khz. I haven't tried the 83 khz and probably won"t -
I think I recall the Johnson Silver Minnow made a large weedless spoon that had the flexible metal strip protecting the hook somewhat too.The mussels can adhere to some very small objects though I know we've even had them on the tiny end of wire protruding at the bottom of small bell sinkers while perch fishing -
Mike the guys make some good points to consider before investing your money. The zebras and quaggas weren't there for much or most of my copper jerking and now you may also have to consider the gobies as well carpeting the bottom in the shallower reaches. Maybe see how it goes for awhile first with the more fundamental approach before getting too far into it too soon.
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Mike here are some pics I posted some time ago of the relevent items: variety of spoons, twin minnows, and basic victrola and A and S automatic reel
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Very cool Krystian....nice job on the paint too -
Sweet! Some great eating and a lot of fun. I've fished the area off Race Point from shore a bunch of times in the Fall four wheeling the beach on the ocean side. I don't think there is a better place for seeing the whales than off Stellwagen. We once had a mother and baby come right up to the boat and the baby came right alongside and was showing off and looking us right in the eyes while doing it and the mom totally tolerated it...unreal experience.
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Mike that spoon is an Ace #4 with the spade logo on it. The original spoons were the Pfleuger that came in a #4 and a #5 (little larger). There have been a number of look alikes over the years such as the Hong kong version Pfleuger (very similar to the original), and the Bladerunner among others but the closest (and best) current replica is the Great Lakes #4. The original pfleuger came in the nickel finish, herring finish and blue mullet finish. Great Lakes Lures makes the silver one and the blue mullet in size #4 and they work great. the Ace that you have is stamped from stainless steel so the finish is not as reflective as the original Pfleugers or the Great Lakes version but the action down deep is similar so it does the job. If you are going to get into the copper pulling you might want to contact Jason at Great Lakes Lures or Fishy might have some in stock or be able to get them..... they can make a difference in your results. When using this type spoon it is best to tie directly to the copper wire with a small loop so the spoon can freely move and a haywire twist. If flutter type spoons are used a leaderis often used both with or without a weight attached to a dropper line suspended a foot to two ft below it.
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I think you'd be amazed at how it simplifies things fishing solo especially Mike.
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I sure can't refute your points Lucky as they are good ones (as usual) but I will say we fished the Dresden during the derby and there were a lot of those fish on the surface out from there, and many of them may have ended up at the north end of the lake with the southerly winds blowing for days on end. It would be interesting to know some results from a toxicology examination from some of them. I certainly hope it isn't something more insidious than temp related phenomena.
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kayslay is right the victrola is the way to go when pulling copper.The rods are better used for pulling cowbells or running Seth Greens than for copper jerking. The action imparted from a rod is quite different from the artfully delivered hand motions and can make all the difference in the world once you develop the right feel and rhythm. For shallower wire use using monel or copper is the A and S automatic reel but the victrola will get you deeper when the fish go deeper. The thing to check with victrolas is the strength of the spring or springs as some have 2. There are also versions that hook up to battery power. The important feature is that they take up the slack as soon as you release it from your hand eliminating the coiling of the copper where problems can occur (e.g. kinking).
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Yeah the ole headshake sure has helped out a bunch of them. I guess the thing to remember is the only thing between you and the fish is that copper wire so when they start the shaking you have to adjust the tension on the copper as much as possible to maintain the contact. They will get tired after a while and usually once they get to that point they will come in without much of it....the trick is to let them do it while maintaining contact through the wire by gently easing off not too much of slack but aafter awhile you get the feel of it. Copper jerking is really an art form and it takes a lot of experience and time to get all of it down solidly
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Boat speed is critical Mike especially so you don't get a big bow in the copper and lose feel of the bottom Your speed should be so that you get the tick ticking of the lure on the bottom. Sometimes you need to adjust your boat speed up or down when you have one on to prevent slack in the copper and the hook coming out of the mouth.Steady retrieve on the wire with the fish on can't horse them especially the big ones
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Just a hunch but there has been a lot of south wind lately and those fish may have come from the Dresden area and that huge sewage spill coming down the Keuka Outlet last summer probably covered the bottom of that entire area out there where many pike, bullheads etc. live and if so may have severely contaminated the bottom structure for miles. I know a few days afterward I was staying across from there and the water was covered with foul smelling sewage all along the shoreline and suspended in the water. Could be that bullheads especially the bottom feeders they are and maybe any baitfish around there got contaminated and it is being passed along to the other fish as well.
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Mike if you decide to go in the direction of a victrola Fishy is a good and fair guy to get one from. They make life a LOT easier than coiling on the bottom of the boat
