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Everything posted by Sk8man
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Thanks a lot Shane for taking the time and effort to do this as well as sharing it with the LOU community. Very helpful.
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A few preliminary considerations: Where do you intend to fish and for what? for starters. Hopefully you will be able to manage rigging and the initial handling of the rods with fish because spinning rods with riggers are very ddifferent than just casting lures from shore and kids etc. will probably be at a loss to effectively manage them on riggers setting up or making adjustments etc. If it were me I'd be talking them out of the spinning rod idea.... standard trolling reels and rods are much simpler in that application and especially for inexperienced handlers. Just my opinion...also if Lake Ontario and kings are involved the line capacity of most spinning reels will be a huge factor and getting spooled may not be a big confidence builder for kids.
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On the plus side at least you'll be within the western section of the lake at that time of year but again some of it heavily depends on weather conditions between now and then setting up water conditions
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Nothing like a good old fashioned mud chicken rodeo The downside nobody has the opportunity for a nap when fishing with Brian Hey what did you end up with in the way of editing software? Video looks real good....
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Just an FYI - You'll have to go off Cape to go to Plymouth and you'll have to cross either the Bourne or Sagamore bridge to get there. If you go that route make sure you allow enough time to get there (traffic on the Cape is very congested at that time of the season) and avoid crossing at peak hours weekend or on cottage exchange day during that time of year as you could end up waiting hours to get across the bridges and I'm not exaggerating.
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Guess it is contagious Mike.
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You're welcome . Have fun!
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One of the great things about the Cape is that the distances between fun places is not real extreme and there are many good choices in the summer months with a lot to do for kids throughout the Cape. You will be staying on the inner Cape so you may want to schedule your charter for the afternoon session if you decide to go with Rock Harbor etc. at mid Cape so you don't have to get up so early with the kids to travel there There are other options (less expensive too) for just some basic bottom fishing on group boats located in at the harbors in Wellfleet and Provincetown (at the very end of the Cape). There s also whale watching at P town but again it is in the ocean and wave conditions can be a real factor to consider with kids (or when rough for anyone). By the way there is a kids museum in Mashpee near where you will be staying. https://www.capecodchildrensmuseum.org/
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June is often considered a "transition" month for the lake and fishing can be pretty unpredictable my choice would be July of the two.
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I think to underscore the point Brian is making without "tooting his own horn" it is pretty clear that the Lake O lakers love his Gambler rigs which are surely on the small side when compared with 7 inch spoons and yet produce huge lakers in that environment.
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Regardless of the weight etc. adjust the clutch drag on the rigger so that it holds the weight fine but if the weight reaches the top it will merely sit there while the pully spins giving you time to shut off. It should be adjusted similar to that in case you hang up on bottom anyway.
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Sure John give me a call if you have any questions about the area etc. I think you may already have my cell # but I'll send it in a PM anyway.
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Rock Harbor is on the bay side which is why I suggested it. It is mid Cape so there is a lot to do out there in the summer but the traffic is pretty bad on Rt 6 and 6A at that time. There are fluke and flounder and a bunch of other edible smaller fish that are good fun for kids especially. Take Rt. 6 all the way to exit 12 at Orleans then go 3/4 around the rotary and on your right there will be a sign for Rock Harbor. It is only a couple miles up that road from there. Hap Farrell (Stunmai II charters) uses light tackle which might be more suitable than some for the kids. I've been out with him a couple times and he knows those waters like the back of his hand http://rockharborcharters.com/rock_harbor_charter_fishing_fleet.htm
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I agree Joe. Good points.
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Not sure where you wil be staying on the Cape which is a factor. Something to consider is the age of the kids. The ocean can be VERY rough on a given day and you don't want them to have a negative experience at that age (e.g. seasick). If it were just you the striper idea is good but if you want the kids and your wife to have fun the bay side of the Cape may be your best bet in that you can fish for smaller species and bottom fish etc. without all the rough water most of the time and they will surely catch something . Striper fishing there is off and on and sometimes you need to go out aways on the ocean side to find them. Rock Harbor near Eastham/Orleans is a real good bet. There are 20 or more charter guys there to choose from and an office there with all sorts of information that is manned full time in the summer and a small beach if they like searching for billy crabs etc.. It is pretty well protected compared with the "ocean" side of the Cape. The National Seashore is nearby with a cool museum that has exhibits for kids and plenty of good restaurants nearby including "Arnolds" right on Route #6 that has all sorts of "kid food" as well as seafood for adults. Down the road off Rt 6 is Wellfleet which has a cool harbor area with fishing from the pier and great restaurants and there is often a big flea market on the premises of the Wellfleet theatre near there often during the summer and lots of kids things there.
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Ugly Stik I didn't take offense to your comments .....just trying to clarify things from my original post and I agree with youabut the algae boom stuff etc.
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Nice one K-9 As far as the newspaper article and information goes - The scientist who presented the seminar at FLCC is Dr. Roxanne Razavi who is an Assistant Professor at SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry. She gave a presentation to the public in conjunction with Finger Lakes Institute the group that studies many aspects of the lakes and watershed. These weren't political folks with some agenda...they are trying just to inform people while they are conducting research...it isn't the government telling you to do something Ray or some leftist conspiracy. Ugly Stik - there is nothing rotten about it .....just a matter of not getting overly technical about presenting information to a general public audience (i.e. not scientists or colleagues) and avoiding a frequent criticism of the scientific community where folks are overwhelmed by terms and data presentations etc. The article didn't answer in depth all the considerations but rather introduced the topic to the public for further consideration while they are researching it. I posted it because I thought it was worthy of at least bringing to people's attention for their own consideration or desire to research it further.