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Sold / Closed Clam Nanook Thermal Ice Fishing Shanty
Sk8man replied to BlueEye's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
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FroggToggs makes a variety of them at various price ranges. I love mine which are the upper grade ones and I don't remember what I paid for them but I think somewhere in the $100 or so.
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You'll notice here that with some of the shorter leader lengths folks are keeping them pretty much close to their rod length unless using slide divers. Unless you are real comfortable (and competent) at handlining fish and especially if you fish solo very much, and perhaps have never experienced handlining an unruly king it is a good rule of thumb to follow. Although I use fluoro leaders generally from 12 - 20 lb test and high quality solid ring swivels for various things (depending on where fishing and the circumstances) but mono seems a better choice for running leaders from dipsys on wire as there is a bit of stretch to it and fluoro is less "forgiving" when large or aggressive kings are in the mix. On the Finger Lakes 30 lb mono is fine (in case of hang ups etc.) but during late season Lake O fishing kings I switch to 40 lb. Big Game mono and tie my flies with 50 lb Big game as a little shock absorption protection (never had one break yet but have had 40 lb fluoro on commercially tied flies break). Mono tends to be a little softer than fluoro and not as stiff or brittle in colder weather and depending on knot I suspect maay have a little better breaking strength at the knot when cold.
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Yeah and even Jim's gill plates are turning color now
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Wondering if the board possibly hit a submerged object that didn't catch your line and bounced into the air?
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Ah OK Nick I think I got ya on it. I know Seneca means as much to you as to me and I sure as heck hope things improve somehow. Happy New Year bud.
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There is plenty of tourism at the Ithaca end of the lake during the fishing season (and plenty of money) I don't know how far a drive it is from your place Nick but I've spent quite a bit of time at Ithaca while my daughter went to college there and it is a thriving community with people coming from all over the place (with both Cornell and Ithaca College there). It could be a nice scenic trip down the canal to get the boat there too Maybe partner up with somebody good at Sodus Point for the Lake O stuff. Hopefully Seneca will recover with time but it may take awhile for the previously good fishing to return.
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You have some good pros for the in hull transducers but you can also get good results with a high quality transom mounted transducer IF it is mounted properly and your hull design is compatible with it. It takes some care, some time, and sometimes multiple adjustments along the way till it is as good as you can get it. I had a transom mounted hard plastic plate installed on my hull with two screws and sealed at the screw holes as well as the back of the plastic with 3M 4200. The plate supports multiple transducers which can be moved around as needed during adjustment or mounting replacements or different transducers on the hull without drilling any more holes in the hull itself. Trandsducer designs (and physical sizes and shapes etc.) change with advancements in technology and when new electronics are installed.This is pretty much a done deal with thru hulls once they are epoxyed and installed. A lot more to the replacement and re-installation when you have a hole in your hull and I think it is something better left to competent professional installers rather than a do it yourself project Airmar as mentioned makes a range of transducers and types for many different applications and they are of high quality and often better than the ones that may come with some units butthey aren't inexpensive either but it is one of those things in life that may be worth the money to save headaches. None of them will work well unless properly installed and usually played with along the way to "optimize" them.
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At south end - Roughly 4 inches some of it white ice in most but not all places and a layer of frozen slush under the snow in some others. Still need to be careful out there.
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I guess the key to understanding this situation may be in viewing the whole ecosystem of the lake and its surroundings as an interrelated ecosystem where changes in any one part of it may affect other parts adversely and some basic building blocks being screwed up (whether too numerous or too limited) may upset the whole "apple cart" in terms of the necessary balance required. As was noted in the fifties and early to mid sixties phosphates in laundry detergents and other products being dumpted into the lakes increased weed growth tremendously as it is a "bio limiting" factor and many other nutirents going into the lake can disrup things as well (e.g.nitrates) and photosysthesis rates can change markedly in response to water clarity and changes in nutrient levels.
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Clear water can be associated with water health but it also can be deceptive in that chemical composition, specific nutrient levels, toxin availability and dispersion, and as importantly bottom composition changes and silt deposition can still be adversely affecting things without it being visibly apparent. The fact that there is very little life visibly present in the shallows e.g. small fish of multiple species and minnows, clusters of crayfish and bugs of various types is highly suggestive of problems other than just lamprey levels although admittedly it isevidently a significant problem in Seneca right now as it was in Cayuga. There used to be bluegills, sunfish, bass, pickerel and pike all over the place in the shallows in years past but now it is basically devoid of life and it points to not only the severity of the problems but the extent of it throughout the shallow areas of the lake visible to the naked eye. The distribution and composition of weed growth also appears to have changed radically. I too have collected diary info and on multiple lakes for about 50 years and the lampreys do in fact greatly affect the fishing but there is a lot more going on than that.....but is is a "stressor" for sure. Keuka is a good example of what I am talking about ....no lampreys present but the lake is in trouble and fishing is severely impacted.
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Sure hope so and it depends on how much the existing ice cover was affected by the recent rain and wind and whether it opened up any ice out there. The temps are supposed to be in the teens for many more days and single digits at night so it won't be long if it is not already there.
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It is good to hear a firsthand account of plentiful sawbellies, and with both the diporeia and the sawbellies distribution in the lake may also be a critical factor and perhaps more so at certain times of the year.Distribution changes could also lead to inaccuracies in estimating the bait population. Again this is a complex set of problems going on.....
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It may underscore what the article mentioned but it also may mean that the fish are desperate for food from lack of availability or for some reason being incapable of locating or feeding on the normal forage base. I think this is happening on Keuka and that the lakers are feeding on the shrimp as well as the small percch and young of other and perhaps their own species.other sources and if so it is just a matter of time before it takes its toll on the diporeia. .I also wonder whether the huge clouds we see during the summer months that folks interpret to be baitfish may in fact be highly compacted or concentrated water fleas and the standard bait may not be as plentiful as some assume them to be.
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When I earlier mentioned the missing link in the foodchain I couldn't remember the name of the specific organism I was referencing but I later remembered and also an article I had run across a while back that I think may shed light on one of the factors possibly relevent to Seneca. The organism is an invertebrate or crustacean called diporeia or freshwater shrimp. It is basically a "building block" and essential link in the fishery food chain. Although this article primarily concerns Lake Michigan and the Great Lakes it is also of concern to the on-going issues with the Finger Lakes but the exact status of things may be in question at the moment as the article was from several years ago and I'm wondering if there has maaybe been a recent adverse downward change in the levels of diporeia or concentrations dispersed diffferently since that time which may be severely impacting the fishery. Note specifically the materiall toward the end referencing the Finger Lakes https://mynorth.com/2008/03/lake-michigans-vanishing-shrimp/
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My take on it is that the problems with Seneca in particular and many of the Finger Lakes for that matter is a compound and complex set of issues and problems;not a single "silver bullet" factor. Many of the observations made by people fishing and living along the lake over time suggest that: the general rise in environmental temperatures over the past decades may have influenced things, the introduction of multiple invasive species, greatly increased development along the shores, the general lack of burms to hold back agricultural and vineyard run-off, increased introduction of lawn fertilizers and pesticides, possible leeching of salt both road salt with it's harmful chemicals and possibly that from the under lake caverns, the multiple overflow problems with sewage dumped into the lake, and possibly numerous other factors have heavily stressed the lakes and watersheds deteriorating their capacity to sustain life. Critically, basic links in the food chain (phytoplankton and zooplankton) are being (or have been) removed gradually impacting all the organisms above them in the food chain which has now taken its toll much more visibly. The introduction and movement outward and gradual explosion into the depths of the Quagga mussels, the covering of traditional shallow water spawning areas by zebra mussels and their remnants have delivered a knock out punch as well. Maintaining a balance in the underwater ecosystem is essential to maintaining a fiishery and when several very basic and crucial things are severely out of balance this is the resulting scenario and it is happening at different rates and levels of severity in these lakes making it difficult to pinpoint things.
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Time to check your fire extinguishers on your boat for recall
Sk8man replied to pvelyk's topic in This Old Boat
I called and had 10 of them and only one needed to be replaced and it was pretty old but they gave me a real nice commercial grade one to replace it....came yesterday. I had to give all the numbers to the lady and she then told me just the one needed replacing. Hard to see some of the number codes on the extinguishrs but ws worth doing. -
Earlier this year there was an incident at the north end of the lake where (I heard) 5,000 or more gallons of sewage overflowed from the treatment plant into the lake via Marsh Creek. Just before Labor day this year a reported 50,000 plus gallons of sewage was discharged into the Keuka Outlet from the Penn Yan treatment plant when someone reportedly left a valve open over night. I was staying at a friends cottage right across the lake a couple days after and there was sewage blackening the water on the east side of the lake and smelling just like what it was for as far as I could see....stuff probably settled to the bottom........
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