Sk8man

I missed that post....nice going Billy....thinking out of the box too That would be a spectacular fish no matter where it is caught.

Recently I've had some folks asking me the same thing...."What's up with Seneca?" My reply is that after spending nearly my whole life fishing it I have yet to do real well on trout and salmon fishing Seneca during the month of August. In years past I switched over to fishing perch but even that has been off there for some time now. Of course there has always been the king salmon addiction wispering in my ear by Lake O around now too. The trout and salmon and more so the lakers may be there in Seneca but they are inhabiting ddifferent places and depths than usual and more spread out right now apparently. Much as June seems to be a month of "transition" for Lake O August seems to serve this function for Seneca. A few years ago Cayuga seemed pretty "dead" and plagued by lampreys but this year it has been action packed for nearly all species although lakers continue to be a mainstay of the action and they are hard to avoid when fishing for silvers. Once the water temps begin to plummet on Seneca the fleas will greatly reduce and then vanish mid to late Fall but the lake often turns over in late August or early September too depending on weather. Hopefully things will improve for the trout and salmon fishing around mid Fall although for me it is then a conflict with the perch game on multiple lakes Once again, what a great place to live.....

Three of us fished the eclipse from 7AM til about 8 PM aboard the Admiral Byrd boat out of Hughes Marina on Lake O. It was a VERY slow day all the way around. We managed a total of 6 kings with two at about 16 llbs as the biggest. They were kept but the smaller 4 were released. Three came on flasher/fly combos on my home made white or green google eyed flies, one of the larger fish came on a spoon ythat was a wild multicolored generic magnum spoon and the other smalls also on spoons on riggers at about 90 over the 3 hundreds. It was all in all a VERY slow rigger bite compared with last time out. We ventured out to about 600 ft then came back in as we stopped marking fish out deep. I'm not sure whether it was eclipse related but we marked most of the fish we saw during the afternoon way down deep at 200 -350 ft down in the water column and a few at about 100 ft. down suspended but they would not hit anything we tried. Neither of us has ever seen so many suspended that deep before (with nothing around them e.g. bait). Bob even ran a downrigger at 220 ft over whatever to see if he could get something to hit just to satisfy our curiosity but to no avail. We also had a few hit and runs on the wires intermittently but gone before we could even grab the rods. Although we tried a multitude of depths with the wires (250-400 out) the fish that hit were at 275 set on 1 or 300 set at 3.Riggers only fired at 90 and 100 on spoonsnothing would hit shallower or deeper set. The heat was nearly unbearable in the afternoon and the flies took their toll on my (once again) ill-prepared companions who were wearing shorts. They might be fast on the learning curve for fishing but not on fly avoidance The undercurrents were VERY strong and created a couple irritating problems with line positioning (nice way of saying tangles). Although the GPS reading was about 2.2 to 2.4 it seemed as though we were going much faster when looking at the angle of the lines probably relating to the strong currents.

I can understand Sammy and Theresa might waant to be hiding their faces after that pic of Nick's perch but I 've adjusted the pic

If anyone would like a couple of free sets of the hammerheads and Spin N Glows they are located on bottom in 180 ft out in the hole

You've got the right idea Brian....I just got back from the Santana concert so I can skip the brews tonight

FishinFool34 I sent you their numbers in a PM

Mike - I just use my main motor to steer and I sometimes (depending on wind may have to point the 9.8 ever so slightly toward the big motor) which then seems to use both to steer. Anyway it works well and it is great not having to mess with the rod setup. I gave my EZ steer to a buddy for his boat. The extra torque from this motor makes all the difference in the world going against the wind. bwmartz I apologize for hijacking your ad to explain things

I too have the Cannon 10A's and I have 3 of the bikinibottom sharks and love them. I figure that the extra 2 lbs. weight won't give me enough difference in blowback etc. to make up for slowing up the retrieve and taxing the motors more than the max. recommended weight. I seldom use them below 100 ft. anyway. In the absence of a Fishawk X4D I allow an extra 15 ft or so on the counter when running them deep and go by my finder anyway. I know it may seem like extra trouble but for folks who have the Fishawk TD and not the X4D you can get a pretty good estimate of how blowback is effecting your actual depth (comparing against your counter and GPS speed) by running the TD on the weight and retrieve it (also get an idea of the temp down there) as a starting point for fishing

The pancake weights are probably the poorest designed of all the weights as they not only go back but to the side as well. I think you'd be a VERY happy camper with either Troutman's torpedo's or bikinibottoms shark weights and it is money well spent in my opinion.