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Sk8man

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  1. Brian I know you're one hardcore dude but lightning spares nobody bud I know that is the "uncle" word for me with my stainless steel bowrail
  2. Nice work Stay safe out there guys. ....sure getting sick of the rain and storms this season...
  3. As far as the Coast Guard launch is concerned historically it has only been open before Memorial Day and after labor Day (beach use) unless that has changed....
  4. The flyrod concept works. We used to catch rainbows off the high Banks area in a couple hundred feet of water on Seneca that way at this time of year back in the day. Red Streamers worked too.
  5. I think the silvers may be chowing down in the real shallow water Mark (less than 40?) and/ or may be mixed in with the bait we were seeing. I think I'd be giving them a try early in the AM close to shore with the boards etc. as in early Spring fishing to see whether that hunch is correct. We hardly marked anything out deep but they may also be scattered up toward the surface and out of range of the cone of the transducer. Often at this time of the year when big bug hatches are present on the surface the rainbows and landlockss and browns can be seen with their dorsals out of the water cruising the surface. I did see one decent salmon jump in front of the boat and had a clear look at him when we were out.
  6. Sweet! They sure love those hammered silver Suttons don't they?
  7. Sk8man

    Elite 7

    Mike it sounds as though the update was corrupted somehow. I'd reset the unit back to the factory default settings and then download the latest update from lowrance and apply it. http://www.lowrance.com/en-US/Software-Updates/Elite-60/ I'm not sure whether the latest version 6 is comprehensive to just update using it alone or whether you have to install the previous version 4 beforehand.
  8. If you select the right strength rubber bands you'll be in business....if slip put a small split on just above
  9. Forgot to mention found 72 degree surface water on east side and 68 on the west side of Lake so soon it will be fleaville
  10. Just a suggestion: Instead of buying NEW look for used ones here on LOU since you are unsure of what you actually want/need. Consider using what you already have for mounts and go wihth the gimbal mounts that fit in the recessed holes you already have. See if any Cannon mag 10's with extendable booms are available. They will be relatively inexpensive but durable although slow to bring up your weights (which I consider an advantage as I rig things while it is coming up). Stick with 10 lb weights on them so the motors aren't stressed as they are the recommended max weight. Get the swivel mounts for them...comes in handy docking etc. If you decide you don't like the electric downriggers you could always deal for some manuals on here with someone moving up to electrics.Here is a pic of my setup that I have used for 15 years without problem (three of them). Pictured is the gimbal, swivel base and downrigger. I have plug ins that any marina should be able to provide you with for the electrical connection. Get 4 of them installed near your recessed holders and then you can switch positions as desired. You can also get another set of gimbals and set up Berts tracks on them and locate rod holders for dipseys etc. on them and likewise can reposition them anywhere in the four holes.
  11. When I was a kid alewwife die offs were very common and they covered whole beaches at the north end of the lake and smelled like H. It appears to be a natural part of their population cycle. We saw many floating during the derby including some that had been hit with slash marks and none had a red hemorrhage area on them that I believe is characteristic of the disease. The answer to the question about using the dead sawbellies as bait is "yes" but only to be used on the particular lake in which you took it from. They work best when frozen for meat rigs or behind Hemlock spinners or straight gang hooks, or on a jig for jigging (can use either just the head or the tail as well. and scrunched up so they spin if used behind any meat rig. One of the potential problems though is proving the source of the bait if ever questioned by a DEC officer.....kinda tough to prove but on the other hand I have never been asked for a receipt for any of the bait I buy (yet) either.
  12. Suttontroller you were right on target with your comment about Laker land....I do think it is impossible. Despite our best efforts to avoid the lakers we caught 5 lakers and only one rainbow about three pounds. The bait was unreal and all the fish caught had "beer bellies" from chowing down on the bait. We only had the five hits and caught all of them.They may have been feeding at night or very early in the AM. One laker came off a white spinny wtih black dots and green fly but all the rest of the fish were on medium spoons off the downriggers set 40-50 ft down with sliders on each. We ran leadcores off boards with both spoons and sticks and never had a touch no matter how we set them up. Most of the fish and bait were marked at between 40 and 80 ft of water and a lot of what appeared to be lakers often right on bottom either near or under the bait. Once outside 100 ft of water we marked very little and no hits out there. We fished mostly the west side but did troll the east side in the afternoon ....nothing all across the lake to the east side and then the rainbow in 74 ft of water down about 35 on the slider with orange Evil Eye just north of Welles College. A lot of what appears to be lakers mostly on bottom in that 60-75 ft of water on the east side. Long day but had fun.
  13. Back from LA and heading to Cayuga for some silvers Hopfully will be able to keep out of Lakerland for some silver action
  14. One of the ways to save a little on battery juice is to use the brake/drag of the downriggers to let your weight DOWN (carefully) rather than the down button of the rigger. I've done ot for at least 35 years without problem.
  15. I think you'll find that in order for the alternator to do any serious charging the motor has to be running at a pretty good clip...I don't think ti does all that much to offset high draw items at the usual slow trolling speeds
  16. One of the important considerations is the extent and type of habitat now available to walleyes. My hunch is that the combination of invasives in the shallows now and the changes in type of weeds now present and distribution of them is affecting the pike and bass populations e.g zebras and shells covering traditional spawning beds, lack of zooplankton for young and minnows to feed on and this would be an obstacle for walleye populations as well. I too would love to be able to fish for them though...
  17. I don't disagree with what you are saying really....It is one thing to have a few big walleye getting along in Cayuga or if they were in Seneca but to maintain a sustained population of them with an already populated shallows is another matter and that is what I actually was referring to. I fish for walleyes as well as trout and salmon and have been doing so for a long long time. Maintaining a suitable predator to prey ratio that is sustainable is complicated with multispecies. Walleyes are predators so are pike and pickerel and Cayuga has always had a healthy population of both. Add in the landlocks, lakers and some browns and rainbows and you have a lot of chowing machines already. As far as the gobies I'm wondering about the health of the existing fish that are eating them as they are known to store toxins from the bottom and to have botulism as well . As tasty and desirable as walleyes are to eat we miight not want to be contaminating them as well as the other fish. I worry even about the perch. They both are my favorites to eat.
  18. Fishstix is trying for the Triple Crown of Fishing ... kinda glad I'll be in LA during it after my last two dismal performances Good luck to all. My buddies the Ryan family will be at it too so it will be a contest for sure. Wonderful little lake to fish.....
  19. It isn't quite as risky on Lake O as on the Fingers....where you can be in 120 ft one minute and then ten yards futher in 20 ft. The gradual bottom of much of Ontario lends itself to the downrigger method better in my opinion.
  20. That s the main way I"ve done it for years too Brian....a lot more control of things and less expense when it goes wrong. Although I did lose two complete sets of hammerheads, Spin N Glows and 40 oz sinkers this time during the derby on Seneca....part of the cost of doing laker business Sometimes things below can cut your line above the cowbells despite having the lower pound test on the dropper The Belhurst hole has to be a goldmine or lost stuff....
  21. At one of the Seneca lake derbies years ago a guy was trolling outside Sampson and caught his weight on bottom and apparently he had his drag set tight....it ripped the downrigger right out of the fiberglass gunwale and went to the bottom with a good chunk of the guys gunwale along with it.
  22. Just a little additional tip: make sure the drag on your rigger isn't set too tight when you're doing this (just in case)
  23. Silver Fox took the words right out of my mouth....that sums it up
  24. I think a basic consideration is the type of habitat a particular lake might provide walleyes as a viable place to feed, seek shelter, and spawn. The larger deeper Finger lakes such as Seneca, Cayuga, and Canandaigua seem to be far from ideal conditions in this regard in terms of water temperature profiles and relative absence of supportive bottom structure and shallows. They and perch are by far the best freshwater fish to eat.
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