Sk8man

18 -24 inches from end of loop to hooks depending on what I target

Just another option but you may be able to pick up a couple Diawa 27H or 47 H's on here inexpensively and go with either the Daiwa Wilderness or Okuma GLT's. The reels have decent line capacity for using boards etc. and good drags and work well for fishing eyes. Both those rods have pretty flexible tips for detecting light hits. The 47H's can also double for salmon use n case you needed extra lines..

They are usually an "incidental" catch on Lake O but they also usually have some size to them when you do get them trolling for salmon and steelies. Although they are most closely related to browns their habits on the Finger Lakes at least are more like rainbow trout in both places Lake O and the Fingers in fact. They roam around alot... part of their nature and it is probably why most are caught trolling rather than say stillfishing. Although they are most often caught in the first 100 ft from the surface sometimes they can be found in "Lakerland". Most of the time having your lines set way back and out to the side (e.g. outriggers or boards) is most productive as in out of the turbulance and motor noise varying your trolling speed and making turns. They seem to be fond of orange, green, chartreuse, purple and black and silver spoons in Seneca and Cayuga but they also like stickbaits trolled back a ways (e.g. on leadcore or 200-300 coppers especially off boards). They can be vulnerable as well to sliders on riggers with lightweight flutter spoons.Light fluoro leaders can help on the Fingers as with browns but is more risky on Lake O when the kings are active.This might help get you started

I'm pretty sure they will work then. Usually the herring are prepared to stiffen up by various methods. If artificials work then something like that with natural scent should. certainly worth a try.

Ah OK I haven't used them that way. Are you actually able to get fresh sardines anywhere but near salt water? I should think canned ones would be way too mushy to try. I've used sardines live and dead in salt water with various rigs but not meat rigs per se for salmon. .

You might want to specify exactly for what type of fishing I know your name might suggest a use but not sure if that is your question

Why not just run from a separate 3 gas tank and eliminate the problem?

Check your PM Mike

Cool thx

Thanks guys I have a bunch of different mounting gadgets including the paint stick one. Question I have is how do you know whether it is focused on the right area when it is up there as I can't get up that high in my baot without a ladder?

I'm with Brian on this. One important difference between this guy and the average guy on the street doing it is that by signing on for and getting his Captains license he is held to a different standard because in that the position he holds a degree of public trust and credentials of professionalism (as does say a teacher) and he violated both aspects.

Kinda like biting the head off a herring ...

One of the things I always wondered is if you were in fact on the water in posession of minnows and didn't have a receipt how would they be able to tell that the minnows weren't from that particular body of water? I guess the proof would be up to the individual in that instance to prove that they did and that would be a bit difficult for most species of bait. I don't think you can take bait from trout inhabited waters in any case for sale without a bait license.

I think the key to it is "commercially" meaning a legitimate established business as contrasted with an indivdual for personal use or sale. As with most things the state does there is ambiguity in it but keep in mind the syllabus in the store is not the original complete regulation either.

I agree about the time limit thing it isn't real practical. However you also aren't supposed to dump the unused minnows into any body of water either. Luke had indicated that he intended to salt or cure them so he could use them in other bodies of water and that is what I was referring to. Thus far I haven't seen anyone even checked for the receipt or date or ticketed regarding the issue but the intention of it is to try to stem the systemic spread of the virus.