Sk8man

In general it isn't a matter of just arbitrary amount of "time" spent it is about doing something different and persistence when you're marking and not getting anything to hit. If you combine what the above three guys have given you and then repeatedly keep after them where marked back and forth you should connect. If not they may not be trout or salmon that you are seeing OR they are just not hungry or active. So after several tries with negative results you move on and keep changing things up depending on what you are seeing on the screen and temperatures. Some folks give up too early.

I think there is a chance of that John

Smacking my lips from here Mark

Any color as long as it is black

Jeremy - Sometimes "less is better" at least in terms of "clutter" at the back end of a boat. A lot of times you're scrambling to net fish and laying the net down back there or rods placed there while netting etc. and putting electronics there on non-charter smaller boats may be just another glitch waiting to happen unless there is truly the space for it.. I keep my previous depth finder which can serve as a backup to the present one in my vehicle during derbies etc. and I have left the previous transducer and speed impeller on the boat as the displays can both use it if I need to substitute. So at least I have something to go with if something happens to my present one. It would seem to me that the Fishhawk could be in the way back there as well and it would be a shame to damage the display. All it might take is a misplaced knee or someone leaning against it accidentally as it is the least protected area of a boat generally. Just food for thought.

Brian is a generous great guy and his Gambler rigs for lakers are the best out there.

Nice job on it Dave. I still think Sheila has the record for speed getting to the rods though

Billy is right....it varies from day to day there. I wouldn't discount your Seth Greens for sure because even the landlocks can be deep out there (e.g. 80-100 ft down) sometimes and with the variety of fish being caught out there you might end up with all you can handle if things continue the way they have been lately. You can also run some of the other options right along with the rigs. Flasher /fly combinations work there and be sure to bring ORANGE colored spoons with you There is something tobe said for running familiar stuff until you get a feel for the lake and then adjust your tactics accordingly as things change from day to day let alone weeks before going there.

I usually mix them up (flashers with and without echips), spinneys, and the older dodgers and I let the fish decide. I don't think there is a hard fast rule as I have caught fish on each. In my view it may be the particular action of one or the other at that particular time with that particular fish that seems to be the determining factor. There are just too many variables involved to really say one way of the other.I also think that whatever may have worked for someone in the past may influence the amount of time any one thing may be used so it may not a fair comparison between the options anyway. As mentioned above I have had better luck over time with all of them run off wire and dipseys rather than off downriggrers.

Geez Mike....I guess it makes tree work look easy compared with this stuff

Kevin you're such a romantic Nice going on the gobbler

Very cool

Many of the Finger Lakes have a "Long Point" whichonewere you fishing ?

My general advice would be this: Give careful thought to your questions before posting, keep in mind that there may be no single way of doing things that is the one and only correct way so you may receive multiple (but appropriate) answers to questions, be patient in your approach to fishing and pay careful attention to detail as you go along, weigh advice and information carefully and make your own conclusions about applying information to your own situation, weed out the things that don't work based on your own experience and maintain or improve the things that do work, don't look for the "silver bullet", only technology, or the "easy answer" to solve problems - actually get out there and try things out and experiment, and keep an open mind and respect the rights of others to their opinions whether they agree with yours or not.

You're right Tyee My 47's and 57's only see wire dipsey use and one for a 300 copper and they are great for that.

mudflat- I wasn't BSing about the 280 yds on a 47H reel I have 8 of them with it (Bloodrun Seaflee 30 lb test) on them. I used the 300 yd. spools and there is about 20 yds or so left over on the spools when finished putting it on the reels. It may not jive with the printed information but it is for real. I'm also not saying that the 47H's are a better solution reelwise just that it is possible to get decent capacity with them. I also have both the SG47LC3Bs and the SG57LC3B's and they have the capability of more line than what is stated in the specs. It may relate to the actual diameter of different brands of line and what they used in theri original calculations etc.