Sk8man
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I guess although we may have all fantasized about it...but Pacific salmon would be a very poor fit for the Fingers and you have hit on probably one of the most important factors.....suitability of stream and spawning habitat. Many of the streams in the Fingers are only available in the early Spring during "normal" years and the rainbows mainly depend on the the larger ones then (e.g. Catherines, Keuka Outlet etc.) The nature of the "beast" is also a consideration though as Pacifric salmon are programmed wiring wise as ocean going and free ranging fish requiring large areas to roam that feed largely on suspended bait and they do not have the varied diet that many of the trout have or Atlantics for that matter. I've found for example plenty of bugs of various types in the stomach contents of trout and Atlantics but never in a Chinook. My hunch is that if thousands of them were dumped in the Fingers they would eat the place out of house and home in terms of the alewife base and if there were any smelt left as well leaving the remaining species with little for which to forage. The primary problem is that they would in all probability severely upset the balance of the existing ecosystem that is currently stressed by invasives and a lot of other factors leading to a large deterioration in the overall fishing quality of these lakes.
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Wes makes some good points here. The line diameter can be especially important for browns in clear water conditions. Stay away from the Vanish and Vicious brands of fluoro The Vanish especially has low to no knot strength. -
Quality net without breaking the bank?
Sk8man replied to Seneca Slammer's topic in Tackle and Techniques
x3 on the Ranger. last time out on Lake O I brought mine along as my fishing buddy normally has a net on his boat that would be better suited for scooping bait from a tank and we were glad we did as we needed the extension on the handle and size of opening to reach a 25 lb thrashing king. They are a good durable net. -
That is good news Paul WTG -
You're very welcome Nick and Theresa and I hope they bring you some luck with those stubborn kings. We were greet ed by Buster at your boat and his female owner who was keeping a good eye on things I might add. Glad you had a great time today too and here is what you missed on the lake -
It is something to try when you are getting "short" hit where they aren't getting hold of the fly.I have made my flies heavier to slow them horizontally once I saw some underwater videos of salmon trying to "catch" the flailing flies that were whipping sideways. My hunch is that they aren't as adept at catching them when they are going real fast while sideways or going around in circles too fast despite being "fast fish" speed-wise. They seem to grab them better on the videos when coming from straight behind or up or down
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My new ride.
Sk8man replied to piratesholly's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Congratulations on a sweet boat. -
pultneyville
Sk8man replied to john1947's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Here is why folks aren't out there right now (Sodus Point pier at 4 PM today) -
X3
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To anyone out here considering trolling Canandaigua for the first time or not being familiar with the lake I would strongly suggest going out with Paul Nagel http://www.canandaiguafishing.com/ the first time. He is a very experienced and knowledgeable guide and a multi species guy who can greatly shorten the learning curve for you. He has also been very generous with information and tips here on LOU despite making part of his income from guiding and that is something in my view that is very commendable. It is easy to waste a lot of time out there if you don't know the lake and its peculiarities and seeing how he does it first hand will be well worth your time and money.
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And Andy knows how to get them too
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Really sorry to hear it Jason. I sure hope you catch up with the person responsible one way or another.
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I honestly don't think the color of the weights is it. Distance from them of your line/leader combined perhaps with exactly what your are running might be a factor...sometimes they want stuff right up close and other times it pays to run it way back especially when running up higher in the water column . For example yesterday on Cayuga the landlock hit when I lengthened the lead to about 75 ft back on the rigger but wouldn't touch the same spoon at about 30 ft same general speed. The slower speed mentioned by Paul would suggest to me that if you have any Sutton's small to medium sized that they would be my go to's for the slower speeds as that is where many of them really excel. I would be thinking 50-70 ft down about now too for the bows and running deeper for the lakers with f'f's.
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Craig - August has always been an odd ball month for fishing on just about all the lakes around here for trout and salmon.....very on and off and mostly off. It is understandable and natural that you might think it is something about your fishing methods or setups etc. but I'm willing to bet money it isn't anything you are doing or not doing it is probably the fact that water temps have been high, the weather has been constant and barometric pressures have been pretty static with few significant storms to change anything around. Over the years I have had the worst fishing in August on most years with the exception of maybe some years with salmon on Lake O. but often even they are hitting out of aggression then rather than feeding per se. I think you will see a good uptick when the water temps start to decline usually as result of cool evenings and significant rain etc. In my view the boat traffic (sea scarabs, jet skis etc. during this hot sunny weather has to be a detriment as well with all that constant noise and commotion out there. Once kids go back to school vacations are over etc. the fishing usually improves out there once it quiets down a bit.
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Sweet Brian! They look like they will be potent "mud chicken chewables" -
Good one Billy Thanks. -
Nice one Nick. Stay careful with the footing out there
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The fleas were present in small quantities but not anything to be concerned about. The weeds on the other hand were pretty bad...many large pods and we had to frequently check and change things and mostof the time we ended up with weeds on the spoons themselves suggesting that there is a lot of submerged stuff as well. Don't assume every mark on the screen is bait or fish
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Personal Best
Sk8man replied to JakeyBaby's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Thanks bud. Guess you brought some of the recent Seneca luck with you Ed but at least Bucky got into them pretty good. My hunch is that Seneca will be back in action when the temps go down. Problem for me is that it is also when the perch fishing starts in full gear and I'm torn between fishing for them....guess it isn't a bad problem to have through We are lucky in deed to have these great resources available around here (e.g. Finger lakes and Lake O).
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Thanks John. I think the lack of results on the Seth Greens may have been because of the higher speed factor necessary because once yo get into the 3 plus with them you usually end up with wrapped up leaders on the mainlines once we switched over to the riggers and usual stuff we were running in the 2.8- 3.2 (GPS) range and even the lakers hit at that speed
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Good point Mike (as I head to the refrigerator to see if there are any "substitutes")
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Thanks Mike. I also forgot to mention that the Atlantic had a 15 inch lamprey that had recently attached. Unfortunately for us he got off at the net or he would have been in two or three pieces.
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Nice choice on Cosentino's Nick and Theresa. Good authentic Italian food. Another place with great food reasonably priced although not as fancy is the DeLuxe Grill on Genesee Street there. and Papa Joe's same street for great pizza and calzones
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Thanks Hop yeah I guess hopefully my IQ has gone up a notch after all these years of toughing it out Lee - You are very welcome. I was going to send you the above info in a PM so I'm glad you saw it here. Good luck out there when you go.