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I edited this first sentence as I misinterpreted something above. I can get quite a bit deeper with the Deeper Divers than the Mags or the Chinooks. One factor not mentioned thus far is the side of the boat the divers are run on because most of the time one side is sort of the "leeward side" with even the slightest turning and the other side is faster to the outside and probably lifts a bit and current raises hell with figuring depth too and may "push" the diver down a bit on the inside or going with the current or either of them sideways perhaps
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I've used them for years and for all the deep stuff I think they are the best out there although the Chinook #5's have less drag when not trying to go so deep. I have even used them in 180 ft of water near bottom on Seneca.when targeting lakers.
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Thanks for the good words guys. I'm sure there are other opinions and feelings and we're all interested in having fun and continuing and improving the National Lake Trout Derby and I am very grateful for the direct involvement of you and others Jason, and look forward to changes and positive direction the new approach and participants will take. An overhaul is long overdue and it is refreshing to see things happening toward improvement.
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As much as I enjoy derbies and especially on Seneca. This might not be the best time to initiate a Fall derby for a number of reasons. First is the fact that the fishing has been way off on Seneca for sometime other than a few spotty reports and if say the fishing really sucked for an initial derby it could effect attitudes toward participation in the Spring derby and we are all interested in getting that one back in full successful operation right now in light of the new changes in management etc. The lakers spawn in the Fall and depending on the exact timing of the derby the spawners could be vulnerable at certain well known north end spots and as far as participants after Labor Day many folks with kids pack it in for the season as the kids are back in school so there would be a lot less interest in a derby other than the hard core fishing types. Just my initial thoughts. I know a lot of the hard core fishermen are really chasing the perch then too and maybe interest and participation would be affected by that as well,.
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Good luck!
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First King
Sk8man replied to Sam N. Slayer's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
The most important part of that experience though is the bonding between you and your son. He won't soon forget that day believe me. My son and I still fish together and we have for many years and I'm sure it is in large part because of those early experiences and his first (32lb) salmon at about 7-8yrs. -
First King
Sk8man replied to Sam N. Slayer's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
The mopst impoortant p[art of that experience though is the bonding between you and your son. He won't soon forget that day believe me. My son and I still fish together and we have for many years and I'm sure it is in large part because of those early experiences and his first (32lb) salmon at about 7-8yrs. -
Yesterday it was the same for us out of Hughes 8 rods out from 9-4PM and only one hit/fish 9.7lb king on F/F right when we were pulling up in 100 ft of water and right near bottom. Pretty tough going out there right now... big case of lock jaw. May need a solid change in barometric pressure to activate them
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Brian and Lucas have given you some real good info and advice. You can (and probably will) wrap up a lot of money in this stuff and until you are sure it is for you why spend big $$$ on new stuff you may not re-capture? This is especially true now as the season is starting to wind down. I see that you mentioned Cayuga Lake so in march there is a great tackle show at Watkins Glen at the south end of Seneca lake and you'll see it advertised (i.e. the date) here oin LOU as the time gets nearer. You would be able to select from both new and used equipment there and often there are great bargains to be had and you get the chance to chat with knowledgeable folks as well.rather than store clerks without a clue .
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Oswego Tough Day
Sk8man replied to Iceman's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Cool Chowdaire All we could manage was one 9.7 lb king (Hughes) -
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Before doing anything I'd be trying to launch at a different place where you have enough water. That way you can even float the boat onto the trailer if need be. Ifyou have trouble where there is enough water you may need to look at adjusting the bunks on the trailer.
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They are good on the West Coast but like Capt Spike said fly would be my go to as well. Try one side by side to decide for yourself
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If you look carefully at the extreme lower left hand corned just off bottom you may have marked a small fish there. The fact that the bottom appears as a uniform relatively thin section without any change could mean that your sensitivity is not great enough and the signal is not penetrating fully to reveal the full thickness of what should be the return signal or identiufying softer targets (like fish). Another possibility is that your transducer is either faulty (i.e. defective) or is positioned incorrectly.
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Last night out of Hughes (8-24-16)
Sk8man replied to Sk8man's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Good luck Tim. My hunch is that it will be a bit tough fishing there with these high water temps for the bigger stuff. The panfish population is crazy there but many small ones
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Rich the shaft is 30 inches long My previous comments yesterday are a good example of being in my own little world here in the Finger Lakes in terms of ice fishing because anyone reading them from the Michigan UP or MInnesota for example would be laughing their azzes off. The usual conditions here are about 3-10 or 12 inches. No matter which drill selected or batteries if you are confronting 2 or 3 ft of ice (or more) you'd be lucky to get a couple of holes and probably would be tossing your drill or hand auger as well As far as the simplified approach I have a 2 person Clam shelter all set up with adjustable rod holders, heater etc. and it may have been great when I was in my twenties (If I had had it then) but once there is deeper snow and jagged ice protruding from the surface. It is a "bear" to drag loaded down with all my crap in it which I am too compulsive to leave behind and usually stays at home or in the back of the Expedition. Yes some guys install a conduit frame and it is easier in the deep snow but again the weight is a factor and another biggy is that once I get real comfortable in it with the heater etc. I don't feel like moving around to find the fish and if using tip ups or tip downs they are harder to see from inside. Enter the "old school"approach related to portability and ease of movement with less personal comforts I have gone back to a deep plastic sled and my old Igloo shelter which goes up and down in about 30 seconds max. and a folding chair in the extreme weather OR more often just a bucket and jigging rods, auger, scoop, and jigs and plastics flasher and lately GPS. Much more conducive to moving around and finding the fish, able to see better what is going on around me, not as able to see down the hole but that is OK as I have the flasher with the zoom