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I stopped using snubbers back in the early 80's. The reason: lost fish from poor hookups. I gave things some thought and concluded that by leaving my drag fairly loose and with the stretch inherent in the mono along with the stretch of the snubber along with the forward momentum of the fish was leading to the poor hookups. That was before fluoro too I should note. I got rid of the snubbers and began setting my drag tighter to the point that it takes a fairly good tug to activate the clicker. Again, this was in the world of mono lines and leaders and my results improved dramatically. Wire fishing is a different "animal" in terms of the stretch issue but the same approach has worked well. The main thing to remember not only with salmon but fishing in general is that the line between you and the fish needs tension on it at all possible times and is pretty much the only thing between success and failure and any slack can lead to failure so the drag setting is critical.....not enough and slack can occur and too much can risk break offs (as well as poor knots and unseen line abrasions). If your drag is set properly (i.e. tight enough) the weight of the fish on the sharp hook should supply enough pressure for a good hookup providing the fish actually has the hook in his mouth keeping in mind that as the season rolls on the mature salmons mouth hardens so a little more pressure may be required for a good hookup and again sharp hooks are often assumed and not carefully examined and corrected. The combination of hook sharpness and proper drag setting are the most critical aspects and keeping firm pressure not allowing slack when bringing in will bring success. A factor not always considered in the so-called "poor hookups" is that the salmon (or other fish) may not actually have the hook itself in its mouth and instead has accidentally grabbed the line or spoon or front part of the fly or that on downriggers in particular the inherent slack created initially as the line releases the fish shortly drops whatever part he has in his mouth. I'm sure this isn't news for a lot of folks but thought it is worth mentioning for new folks to the scene
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LOC Summer Derby!
Sk8man replied to Sarah Chilson's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
For those of us that can remember when there were NO DERBIES around it seems that it is pretty nice that the option is even offered. To expect organizers to "customize" standing rules to fit each participants particular work schedule or individual situation is pretty absurd and self centered I might add.. It seems that many among us are becoming a pretty impatient and "spoiled" lot and this issue seems proof positive. A little appreciation and consideration toward the organizers and their efforts goes a long ways in helping to maintain these derbies -
My first 30lb king
Sk8man replied to bondouley's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Look at it this way Dave....there are a lot of people out there that have never caught a king let alone a thirty pounder -
My first 30lb king
Sk8man replied to bondouley's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
WTG Dave. a case of perseverance paying off. You put your time in and and dialed it in. Good going. -
You guys must have caught them all on those small to medium spoons
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KOTO 3 Results and Standings
Sk8man replied to Yankee Troller's topic in Tournament Talk, Shows, Events & Seminars
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Just something to keep in mind.....like a lot of things in life more is not always better....nor does it always yield better results. There is something to be said for stealth and presenting something that seems novel or unusual to the fish. When too many attractors are run together or even too many lines at similar depths and lengths my feeling is that it may actually spook otherwise inquisitive fish. I know other folks may think differently but I thought I'd mention it for consideration anyway
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Roughly 2 5/8 through 4 inches works well on the Finger Lakes. Can you catch fish on magnums? sure... but not as frequently.
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Cayuga New to trolling, no luck yet on Catuga. Any help?
Sk8man replied to sstout's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
Some real good suggestions above. Slow speed is probably the culprit unless you are fishing solely for lakers and if fishing for s the landlocks you probably don't need the attractors just the plain medium and small spoons with sliders. You will have a lot more range to play with the speed without using attractors on your riggers. -
I have dedicated SWR's that I've been using for sometime 1,2, 3,'s but one of my buddies actually successfully runs his 10 colors that way without problems. My hunch is that one of the main reasons leadcore works may not be related to the length used but rather the fact that it creates a lot of turbulence under the water whipping from side to side and up and down in the column. My only concern with the longer sections is that dipseys or coppers running deep could get tangled in it but he doesn't run coppers either.
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Probably not a great idea to get into here and maybe especially this year. One of the great things about this site for me is that there is usually little drama and things are more about sharing ideas and learning than getting into issues that often lead to conflict by their very nature (e.g. like politics and religion etc.). My vote is to keep it focused on fishing stuff that we all have a vested interested in.
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Sounds as though there is something sharp or abrasive somewhere in the take up path that is severing and/or abrading the strands since it isn't occurring in just one spot toward the end of the cable which would in that case indicate possibly fast retrieval rate of a heavy weight with "jerking" going on severing strands near the termination where the stress would be greatest.. I'd do a real careful check of everything you can in the wire path (maybe with a magnifying glass?) Probably wouldn't take much of a rough edge somewhere with that type of pressure on it.
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Nice going Pete. Likewise I've connected back up with folks I've known for a long time but not hung out with just because of the way life is (i.e. different paths) as well as met a bunch of folks I otherwise probably would not have gotten to know. You have hit on one of the very important virtues of this website that is not often mentioned.: the ability to connect or re-connect with like minded folks and in my view it is about ten steps above the common social media crap. I have met with total strangers to help them or demonstrate various fishing tactics at places like Bass Pro, Runnings, Wegman's etc. as well as many times met up with folks selling various things from downrigger booms to spoons, and rods etc. What I'm getting at is that this is a very special forum that appeals to many specific fishing interests as well as different levels of interest and experience on the part of participants. I have made some great friends via this website and it continues to be a valuable opportunity and source of information and contact. :yes: Two thumbs up for Chad
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A few basic things to consider are: are you fishing solo or with others (netting) and how good are you at hand lining chinooks to the net? Unless using something like a sliding dipsey there are realistic functional limits to the length of the leader because when you get the fish near the boat and try to net it you may have a problem if it is too long and your boat becomes too short to back up to the front so someone else can net it OR you are by yourself and the dipsey reaches the tip of your rod with several feet of leader still out with a fiesty chinook on the other end and you are into a one hand netting situation If desiring long leads on your setup consider using a slider dipsey and for usual dipseys use the length of your rod as a guide to the total length of your setup that way you'll be in netting range most of the time. If you have a lot of experience hand lining fish you may choose to go over the limit but chinooks are a handful at the boat and are often unlike some other more sedate fish and when they see the boat or the net expect the unexpected
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