Sk8man

Are you sure you don't mean column?

Been there done that....but usually over water

Brings back memories......had my son ice fishing at 2 1//2 and we are still doing it together nearly 40 years later

Usually they have sent plastic things that look like book markers with that info on it in some of mine depending on the lake. I imagine the Region 7 office of DEC might send ypou one for Cayuga if you contacted them.

Have to hand it to you.....some hardcore fishing

I always pulled the transducer out when underway and not trolling too Andy.

I the old days I had one with the suction cups .....you definitely want to have a safety line attached especially with a valuable PanOptics transducer

The focus here is internal as though we here in America, or the government etc. are at the root of the problems we are facing when in fact it is China. They are the root cause of this problem and what is being lost is the fact that they not only have been experimenting (and perhaps developing) biological weapons in their lab but now they will have much more data from across the world to use to make the virus more virulent and to escape the vaccines effectiveness. They have seen firsthand what the use of a virus can do globally to destroy economies, to weaken military responses, to weaken medical facilities, and to destroy morale of nations. As importantly, they have seen the impact that a pandemic can do to weaken adversaries to the point of desperation (e.g. underdeveloped countries with raw resources such as precious metals necessary for the production of vital products in the developed countries affecting everyone). A lot of this vaccination BS is a major distraction from the grave threat developing in the world from China's actions and desire to be "number one" and in control of the worlds resources.

Two separate issues - voluntarily getting or not getting the vaccine OR mandating that the vaccine be administered or losing your job. At first I thought "God maybe it is necessary in order to get this thing under control when the virus was first attacking a couple years ago, but we sure have had a chance to see that it doesn't work and creates many more serious problems than it solves and as Americans we don't like the government telling us what to do and restrict our personal liberties or freedoms. That process has alienated us from the Government, the media, and done a disservice to our economy and the nation as a whole. It is clearer now that we are going to be living (or dying) with this virus for the future because worldwide the virus is free to mutate and even has appeared in the remote reaches of Antarctica. It can apparently spread from vaccinated as well as unvaccinated recipients so creating social/personal chaos by mandating vaccination makes no sense at this point no matter which side of the vaccination issue you are on. The overwhelming of hospitals and medical services is another issue and needs to be addressed separately.

Seems as though we are a long way from HB2's original post, but maybe this is a good way to ventilate feelings and emotions and regardless of particular position and some of the things mentioned here are food for thought. This vaccination issue among many others in our lives such as politics, religion, abortion etc. is very emotional in nature with strong extremes so there is a tendency to throw the baby out with the bath water, but civility is important too and is becoming rare or lacking in many of our societal contacts these days.

Gator makes a great point about the lack of effectiveness of communicating via email, Internet posts, etc. Nothing beats face to face communication about important issues or concerns where facial expressions, intonation of speech body language and many other important cues to learning can take place. Underlyuing this whole topic is emotional fear which clouds reason and logic regardless of the position taken. It really is time to get back to fishing

One of the things ignored here is the question of what are the long term currently unknown effects on the brain and nervous system of contracting even a mild case of covid regardless of strain? The fact that many folks contracting the virus lose their sense of smell and experience other brain/nervous system/respiratory problems suggests that exposure to covid in and of itself may be a worse risk than the potential side effects of the vaccine. There is no data to evaluate at this point in the situation. At least the potential side effects that may affect a percentage of the population (as with nearly any medication or supplement or allergen etc are presently known or suspected and some can be treated. Neurological sequelae the extent to which someone may be living with over time and perhaps unknowingly deteriorating is a significant and largely unknown risk, and like being subjected to the chicken pox virus in the past as a child and then dealing with shingles later in life because the live virus has resided in the system over time. The impact on children's nervous system during the formative years is another significant concern and so are the concerns regarding the vaccine for them in particular but that is the case with pretty much any medication as it is with the elderly. It is truly unfortunate that so much inaccurate information is out there these days, and the various agendas being pushed off on us and a lack of fidelity and honesty in the media and journalism as it has contaminated our ability to accurately assess or verify what is going on at this point. The similarity to the "Wikipedia" with the ability to edit the facts and reliance on the information presented does not escape me.