Sk8man

Nice going!

Good info and also good to hear that bait has been noted east a bit too Thanks. This issue once again points up the real value of this website....the sharing of information and ideas. In the old days the conclusion would have been reached (based on insufficient information) that the bait was lacking out there rather than distributed in a non-uniform manner both along the shoreline and depth-wise. We are all learning here and this sure underscores the importance of sharing information so that all of us can benefit from it.

The currents were operating pretty strongly the other day too Tom and I agree that the DEC should be using different sampling strategies and models for making their assessments regarding the bait situation. Many of their assumptions currently seem to fly in the face of the experiences of many of the charter guys who probably spend many more hours out there than the DEC. I'm not faulting the DEC but merely suggesting they may need to revise their thinking a bit and pay a little more heed to incoming information despite it often being"anecdotal" in nature.

As I mentioned at least above "The fish we had also looked VERY healthy too so that is too a good indicator" . Some fish released but I think my buddy may have used the big laker that didn't make it for fertilizer in his garden or something so stomach contents not examined this time. We even commented at the time that their body shapes resembled "piggish browns" Thanks for the report Tom encouraging except for the "adult only bait" not great for the near future....lets hope that turns around. Sometimes with many species when there is a rapid and significant downturn in their population they seem to kick up the reproduction cycles to help regenerate......I sure hope this is the case here too.

We saw them out there yesterday as well in the Hughes area.

Glad you responded as it sounds as though it is a bait distribution situation and that is a bit of a relief and also probably why the king action has seemed to be west of us for awhile. Probably another good reason not to jump to possible conclusions based on just limited location data. The fish we had also looked VERY healthy too so that is too a good indicator....was a bit disconcerting however to go so far and not see anything....

They are truly amazing fish. I was watching folks fly fishing in the Snake River a couple weeks ago in Wyoming but they were after cutthroat trout. What a beautiful river to fish though.

Admiral Byrd and I trolled from 6:15 AM until 6 PM from Hughes and threw everything but the kitchen sink at them. We started in about 140 and worked the water out to 200 plus and back in as we marked fish in there but not out as we went much deeper. We ended the day with 4 kings (biggest about 14 lbs and smallest about 5 lbs) and 3 lakers biggest about 15 plus. All but the one laker (Spin-N-Glow) were caught on Spinneys and green flies (my home made ones and commercial ones so fly color was probably important ) Most fish came about 85-105 down. The largest king had a humongous 18 inch lamprey on it which we got into the boat and the Admiral applied his "loving touches" to its head with pliers. thus preventing its genetics from further dispersal. During those 12 hrs we did mark intermittent fish down deep in the 100 or so range and a few in the 60-75 ft range but they didn't seem interested in our offerings. The fish we did catch seemed to come out of nowhere especially the king I got on the 200 copper with mag dipsey and spinney/fly . No action whatsoever on the spoons regardless of presentation technique. Had one downrigger release with one on but gone when got to the rod. The most unusual thing is that we didn't see bait anywhere even when we cruised in closer after pulling lines etc. We saw a couple tiny things that could have been a small amount of bait (or maybe flea pod) and that was it. For the most part it appeared like a vast desert out there in terms of active life forms. In the past I've always seen some bait within that trolling range often hugging the bottom with some suspended at this point in the season especially considering we trolled past Ginna to the west and half way to Sodus Point east. On a brighter note. the fleas weren't bad even on a leadcore that was out for quite awhile and we didn't encounter the nasty biting @#%$&* flies . We also saw a few dead seagulls as reported buy others.

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nice going Ed.....better break out the Beano though

Go get em Ed....lets hear some brown, landlock and bow stories to get excited about

Not only a good fisherman but it looks as though you're an excellent chef as well Ed.....looks delicious. My chicken caaesar sucked in comparison

Geez your dinner makes mine look pretty weak... chicken caesar salad Enjoy!

Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick Ed

Moral of the story: It pays to be specific in a post or you spark all sorts of creativity

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