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Idaho salmon
Sk8man replied to anytime's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Admiral Byrd and I trolled from 6:15 AM until 6 PM from Hughes and threw everything but the kitchen sink at them. We started in about 140 and worked the water out to 200 plus and back in as we marked fish in there but not out as we went much deeper. We ended the day with 4 kings (biggest about 14 lbs and smallest about 5 lbs) and 3 lakers biggest about 15 plus. All but the one laker (Spin-N-Glow) were caught on Spinneys and green flies (my home made ones and commercial ones so fly color was probably important ) Most fish came about 85-105 down. The largest king had a humongous 18 inch lamprey on it which we got into the boat and the Admiral applied his "loving touches" to its head with pliers. thus preventing its genetics from further dispersal. During those 12 hrs we did mark intermittent fish down deep in the 100 or so range and a few in the 60-75 ft range but they didn't seem interested in our offerings. The fish we did catch seemed to come out of nowhere especially the king I got on the 200 copper with mag dipsey and spinney/fly . No action whatsoever on the spoons regardless of presentation technique. Had one downrigger release with one on but gone when got to the rod. The most unusual thing is that we didn't see bait anywhere even when we cruised in closer after pulling lines etc. We saw a couple tiny things that could have been a small amount of bait (or maybe flea pod) and that was it. For the most part it appeared like a vast desert out there in terms of active life forms. In the past I've always seen some bait within that trolling range often hugging the bottom with some suspended at this point in the season especially considering we trolled past Ginna to the west and half way to Sodus Point east. On a brighter note. the fleas weren't bad even on a leadcore that was out for quite awhile and we didn't encounter the nasty biting @#%$&* flies . We also saw a few dead seagulls as reported buy others.
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trolling spoons with a fixed slider
Sk8man replied to Ohreelyfishing's topic in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?
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You're very welcome. From what I'm hearing the fleas are starting to get bad and that is when I leave my braid stuff at home. For me at least braid seems to clog up the most of anything I use and wire is easier to clean them off. I'm assuming you have magnum size dipseys to get down where you wish to be and as far as the Deep 6 Divers that they are #5's which will get down to about 90 ft. I'm not real familiar with the dive curve for the Deep 6's but I'm thinking you'll have to let out more line than that (also depends on the diameter of the braid to an extent) to get to 90 ft. probably close to 280-300 maybe with flasher/fly (and depending on size and type of flasher ='s drag). I think you can figure about a 3 to 1 on the mag dipseys so the 225 seems reasonable for the 70 ft. I think what I would do (which is different than how I run my stuff because I am set up differently than you describe and you didn't mention boards etc.) is to think about running the flasher/ flies on the Deep 6's one on the side and one straight back on the opposite rear area of the boat at those deepest depths and with the dipseys one off the side running at 50 ft. set at 1 1/2 to 2 and the other straight back at 70 ft. set at 1 1/2 or 2.. If set at 2 you may have to have more line out than you think too. I'm assuming here that the two Deep 6's are running at something resembling a 0 setting on a dipsey (e/g/ straight down and back). I would hope that this type of setup would give you the necessary separation while covering the way you wish in the water column. You could also take your chances and run the two Deep 6's one off each side set to 1 to 1 1/2 and run the dipseys off the rear set each set to 1 1/2 to 2 but again you'll have quite a bit of line out and if taking any radical turns either setup could be a problem Other folks may have different thoughts on it. Good luck with it and with the fishing.
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I think before the main question can be answered it is important to know things like whether you are using wire or mono on the dipseys and the specific size of each of the dipseys and what you intend to run behind them and what species you intend to target.
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Fishing
Sk8man replied to proline22's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Blow boaters
Sk8man replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Wow Stan - Is that a fish or what? I know they used to get them on the Kenai that big but that is some fish!
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Blow boaters
Sk8man replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
One of the critical factors running through the thread relates to basic courtesy. Unfortunately it is becoming a rare quality in American life these days. The exploding road rage cases lately are another indicator. Instead of thinking about getting out the flare gun for a broadside hit on the offending boat we may need to collect ourselves a bit and get perspective on the situation. We've all been there emotionally but these days especially being right or having the right of way may be irrelevant in the larger scheme of things. Many folks out there are operating with a very short (or no) fuse and it really isn't worth it getting into it with them and some of them seem to be operating on "low voltage" in terms of intelligence as well and that always has the makings of a bad situation. -
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The time to do it is when the fleas and/or weeds are thick and you need to check your lines and when you are going to change lures anyway. Just pop them and let them flutter to the surface (with spoons). Otherwise Rick has a good point.
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Tough day on lake o
Sk8man replied to Chas0218's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Nice going Chas. You know this thread kinda sums up the Lake O fishing....it is on and off and you just have to keep at it to be successful out there. Persistence pays off -
Just something to think about but more is not always better. There are times when you may want a little stealthier presentation than a ton of stuff running through the water possibly spooking more fish than you are attracting. Setups can be more effective when some thinking goes into just what you want to achieve rather than just putting everything but the kitchen sink down there hoping to score big. Each setup should be selected to enhance the attraction factor as well as avoiding the major tangles when doing the necessary things such as turns etc. so you run things that are compatible while covering the critical areas of the water column for maximal success.
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I know but I couldn't resist the opportunity to bust ya
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Maybe because there are only skipper kings left out there?
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50 lb test for fleas
Sk8man replied to Garyf's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
The use of the heavier lines is mostly related to the flea issue. In the past many if not most of us used 12 lb test even on 30 plus kings. That's what a good drag is for -
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