Sk8man

Good going John.... all the way around

Don't bother with the TX 22's they aren't great .The TX 44's or the Walleye boards work fine 300 copper and below if only running spoons or sticks and not .real heavy stuff like a dipsey with it.

Yes the main problem with my 2 stroke is that I can't hear people talking while it is running otherwise it runs great etc. but that is annoying.

I'm thinking about the same motor Mike to replace my 9.9 2 stroke and the online outboards looks like a good tip

It looks as though he is smiling Alec.....maybe happy about the warmer weather

I agree that it is a very significant part Mike but I also think that the combination of these environmental habitat related factors along with increased fishing pressure, improved technology (e.g use of cameras, GPS etc.) over harvesting of spawning or ripe egged females year after year, taking very undersized fish, heavy fishing in contained vulnerable areas (e.g. marinas where pre-spawning or spawning can take place) and the selling of perch combine to deteriorate the populations of perch and it is very noticeable that this is happening when you take into account the various cycles seen over the course of more than 60 years, the condition of the traditional spots fished (especially the mussel shell strewn bottom where nothing else is visible and their status today.

Thanks Joe.. good point. I do remember something about that but had forgotten it.I agree that some of the video is somewhat "puzzling" but I also remember seeing a pic taken from space of the localized blue-green algae blooms on the east side of Seneca a while back.

I guess you seem to have all the answers Kingfisher.....and you aren't even from this area so I guess you must be a bit psychic....good for you

"Too much information" on the fart analogy as my daughter might say I think we got a bit off track from the main topic too and I take responsibility for that with bringing up the eutrophication issue but it is something to take into account. What I'm wondering is if it would be worthwhile here in the Finger Lakes to reduce the daily limit of perch to 25 in keeping with the limit on Crappies ( it is still a lot of meat to eat for personal use) with a similar 9 inch minimum size for Crappies on a trial basis for awhile similar to the one rainbow limit currently implemented on the western Finger Lakes. One of the other concerns here is that perch season is never closed unlike the gamefish seasons during spawning. Another thing is that for years I and other folks I know have been keeping perch from about ten to twelve inches and throwing back smaller ones or obvious real large egg laden females. The keeping of 6-8 inch perch is pointless by sport fishermen and it also is questionable keeping large gravid (egg laden) females because much of their anatomy is devoted to the eggs with much less actual fillet meat than males. There are currently "slot limits" on certain gamefish which is a similar concept. I know this doesn't deal with selling aspect, and probably will be unpopular with the "governmental conspiracy" folks but I'm thinking of things that ethical sport fishermen can do to try to preserve this fishery in the face of so many detrimental factors currently facing the perch population. I know there are folks out there that will say that the perch population is "fine" (and that I'm just not locating them as well as they can) and "where is the evidence" but in many cases waiting for the evidence to be prominently apparent to all signals a major collapse in either the ecosystem or the particular species itself and the "canary in the coal mine" information is long gone and now "irrelevant".

Really good points Steve. Like Lamoka and Waneta Honeoye has about the same problems. A few years ago I went to launch my boat there and the algae, nutrients and some of the chemicals they treated the lake with pooled up near the launch and it looked just like green oil based paint in the water....I decided to forego launching. The weeds in mid to late summer grow to near the surface messing up boating and any thought of stuff like recreational skiing or swimming. Eutrophication is a real problem for everyone living there and leads to the bue/green algae bloom that can be toxic to animals and a bad skin irritant or worse to humans. In recent years some massive fish die offs (e.g. perch, bass, rockies and sunnys) in the Finger Lakes have occurred as well which haven't seemed to be well understood either. No simple solutions.

muskiedreams - It is my understanding that eutrophication can and does happen to lakes it is viewed as an "end stage" process that happens over a long period of time not as rapidly as noted here. One of the puzzling things to me along the lines of Joe's question is turbidity is usually thought of as sediment in the water that is mixed in leading to problems with water clarity rather than the presence of bio limiting factors such as phosphates and nitrates etc. which gave rise to the rapid growth of weed beds in the 60's at the north end of Seneca. Seneca is not a stagnant body of water like some either because the Keuka Outlet flows into it and the outflow is through the Seneca canal at the north end of the lake with strong current action from both wind and when they open the locks up in Waterloo NY. so you'd think a lot would be cleansed through the system. Again, this is a complex system with complex problems but run off from farms and wineries sure doesn't help things, and they have powerful lobbies.

Along the lines of data and environmental impact you might want to take a look at this presentation a buddy sent:

Thanks Sean. It is totally an "under the table" process Ed which is another problem because unlike other foodstuff it isn't subject to any inspection or monitoring (e.g. sanitary conditions or processing etc.) . It is also interesting that the DEC publishes all sorts of warnings about consumption of fish from the NYS waters yet doesn't regulate in any way this trafficking. I do have to qualify a statement I made earlier above: I mentioned that the perch were a public resource and that the money derived from the sale them actually should belong to the public. I was trying to accentuate my point about them as a resource belonging to all of us not that the money should actually be turned over to the government. Believe it or not I share some similar anti governmental intervention feelings (e.g. the so-called SAFE Act etc.) that Kingfisher mentioned. There are also situations where money and greed are involved that something has to be put in place to to correct emerging problems or abuses because the people benefiting are obviously not going to be the ones to do it (witness the current jailed legislators and their pensions).

Lets let folks make up their own minds about who is the BS artist....it should be pretty clear by now You're pizzed because someone isn't being intimidated by your tactics and "threatening" your little money making scheme.