Sk8man

My thinking is that the lake is very big and there are many feeder streams on it and not all of the spawning is at the one at the south end as I stream fished many of the others on both sides of the lake (names left out on purpose ) for many years with very low fishing pressure because few fishermen realized they were present there . The main problem was locals living right nearby who took many of the spawners at night illegally. It could be that the rainbows already in the lake (and streams) could benefit from the addition of some genetically strong rainbows introduced and stocked near the other streams that have water year round. The complaint was that there were few rainbows in Seneca and that the stream at the end of the lake had been severely compromised with high water conditions and environmental factors which compromised the spawning efforts. For years bows have been my "specialty" and I often fish specifically for them and the one limit is a problem in that regard because even though I release nearly all fish if a bow goes belly up I go back for them and keep them so that pretty much ends the fishing for them because if another does the same you have no choice but to leave the fish and that is wrong. They are a wonderful fish and it would seem to me that the existing population of them could use some help in proliferating. Adding more landlocks is also highly desirable as they are real acrobats and add a lot to the fishing experience. I wish they would add some to Canandaigua too but the available streams are much more limited for spawning here. Thanks for helping out with the stocking efforts Nick.

Before you consider those factors take time to get a good handle on the undercoating and preparation of the base metal of the blanks because if it is not effective all the other stuff will be fruitless.

Sure wish those numbers were rainbow, browns and landlocks each along with the lakers

I release everything but the fish that go belly up after release and rainbows can be a bit fragile when the water is real warm. I always look forward to the Fall colder water fishing. You guys are a great bunch of anglers and I wish each of you the best of luck out there. Stay safe.

Hey Mike we saw you at the north end in the AM but we were in close in the grey Penn Yan fishing for perch and it was a good day for us as well Man... those jug rigs were almost back to Naples Nice going on the bows Guess maybe you guys can see why I had the problem with the one limit on Canandaigua a while back but hopefully it will help out the fishing long term anyway.

Nice going Kevin and great pic of the Lab....they are incredible dogs. P.S. Were the ducks laughing on the way in after quitting time?

I'm always interested in Vince's view of things and I believe he is on the "bulls eye" on the lake situation. On another note I've seen the effects of the cormorants on the fresh water lakes at Cape Cod for over the last 30 years (in-laws place Mid-Cape) and they not only decimate the fish and bait populations but they are also carriers of disease and seriously pollute the waters they inhabit with their feces. Thankfully Lake O is large and the water is "flushed" fairly rapidly compared with the other Great Lakes and most other fresh water bodies in general or they would also be a health hazard. To expand a bit on Brian"s comments lakers are not only "opportunists" but they have a very diversified diet compared with some other species and they are also bottom oriented much of the time and that is where the gobies spend much of their time and in the Spring they both inhabit the same area of the water making it much more likely they will be "targets" at that time of the season. The lakers move to the depths when the temps increase (when the sawbellies also generally move out and down deeper) and they hunt the suspended pods of alewives then and seem to "rest" near bottom under the schools of bait and it used to be also the rainbow smelt then they were available.

Ralph is a great guy Steve and he always adds something relevant and of particular interest to us in his posts. One of the things I have noticed about that particular buoy over the past couple years is that much of the time you can just about double the wave height information and it will be close to reality for some reason. I've checked it many times while out there and while somewhat near it (e.,g. Hughes or Sodus Point) and that is what seems to be the case each time.... not sure why.

I've never heard that running with a spotlight on is illegal but if so I guess my take on it is that I'd rather be around to explain to the judge why I did it than have a bunch of people standing over me at the cemetery.. given some of the lunatics out there and potential obstructions in the water as I have a vivid memory of two such fatalities on Seneca Lake.

Thanks Mark....I'm at home now and for once in my life with good timing Have a great time at the Outer Banks and stay safe. You're right about the pic of the skate

I've always had a remotely operated spotlight on the front of my boat for this very reason and always have it on when running at night. I've seen/heard people running full tilt in the dark with no lights at all hooting and hollering and clinking beer cans yelling and talking loudly (obviously inebriated) while I was walleye fishing on Honeoye Lake and it is a disaster just waiting to happen.

WTG Sean! I know you have a bunch of fishing memories with your dad but that one hunting will top everything for some time

Thanks guys and yes Keith it is really cool and we even got to see the full eclipse the other night from the upper deck of our friends place right there on the marsh and it was truly beautiful. The sting rays are something to be careful with but the large blue crabs do the most threatening and are really funny to watch. I caught several on the cut bait and it felt like they were the bait stealing Pinfish nibbling and then you'd pull in those damned blue crabs and they would threaten you with their claws in the boat when you tried to detach them. Funniest of all though were the little unidentifiable tiny fish that nibbled at the hairs on my legs and drove me nuts while wading in the marsh in shorts That was a first.

I hope you aren't returning them to the water

Just received this response to my inquiry from Assemblyman Kolb Dear Mr. B Thank you for contacting me with your concerns about the Lake Ontario King Salmon Fishery. It is not uncommon for various species of fish and wildlife to experience periods of downturns in population for any number of reasons. The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) is aware of this issue and is cognizant of the economic importance of the salmon fishery to our region. Should additional funding be required to increase stocking or conduct additional research into the underlying causes of this decline, I would support it. I would like to thank you and the Lake Ontario United Forum for all you do to advocate for our precious resource. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. (signature was an image that would not post)

I tried some new fishing after all these years while visiting friends in Charleston South Carolina. We fished the intercoastal salt water tidal marshes right in back of my friends home and had a blast. When the tide comes in the area that looks like a field of reeds at other times becomes a playground for all sorts of fish and creatures including redfish (red drum) black drum, and sea trout among a host of other species. For some of the fishing we waded out in shorts and for other stuff we used the boat but it was all light tackle and these redfish (especially the large ones) fight a lot like kings on 10 lb test line. We caught our own bait (menhaden and mullet) with a cast net and used them both live and as cut bait strips used as in stillfishing. The redfish would slam the h out of the bait. The biggest surprise was a couple porpoises that had come way into the estuary hunting from the ocean (many miles) and were slamming the bait right nearby us. We caught a number of fish as well as some huge blue crabs, and a couple sting rays as well. A real fun time learning some new stuff in a very different environment.

Mike you have a PM with specifics

They look enough like the Freshwater Sculpin that I'm hoping the lakers will target them as the sculpin are a favorite menu item for them