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Sk8man

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  1. Hopefully they are not "escapees" from gill netting activity
  2. Great points Rick There is a lot to think about and mull over in this thread.I think the picture is becoming clearer in some respects as the season is rolling on (and the fish just aren't showing up) ....so much for the "delay" theory. After the other day I'm pretty convinced the salmon just aren't out there in any numbers right now for whatever reason (s).
  3. I think wicked salmon's advice is something to try because there are fish right on bottom in that range that give the appearance of lakers and as was said forget the temp stuff for the matures right now. On wednesday we made the mistake of roaming around trying to find active fish starting in 70 ft out straight from the channel and we didn't mark any fish until135-160 ft and they were hugging bottom for dear life and we figured they were lakers. I am now wondering if there were some kings mixed in because they were distributed all along bottom in that area. There were about 6 boats working an area back and forth on an angle of about 30 degrees east of the channel in about that same depth and I couldn't tell whether they had actually caught fish or were just working the area or bait even. In the past I have caught kings even in 25 ft of water west of the channel with very bright dodgers and squid just off bottom but water conditions are generally different now. If you have a silver J plug with the red mouth area I'd give that a good workout inthe40-70 range too. We trolled a LOT of water from 40-430 the other day and never marked a fish (or bait) from 200-430.off west of the channel.If I were going back out I think I'd be working the 40-70 early and if no success I'd motor out to 500 ft and look for the steelies and hopefully some silver kings. I forgot to mention w never moved a rod (6 of them out) the entire time from 7AM-4:30 PM.....better luck to you
  4. Steve - thanks... I appreciate the compliment coming from you because I respect your opinions as well.
  5. Bet that cormorant gives you a tough go Rob.......and do the seagulls gang up on you like they do on the folks at McDonald"s over the french frries ?
  6. Victorinox and Dexter Russell are both excellent and they both hold an edge real well
  7. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but we trolled from half way to Chimney east to just west of Hughes west and from 40 ft of water out to 430 ft from 7 Am until 4:30 PM with 6 rods out and never had a hit. The only fish we marked were out from the channel in 130-160 ft of water directly on bottom that were most likely lakers and even they weren't "active". Very little bait marked the entire time and what was marked was small patches in the 40-100 range over whatever. We didn't mark a single fish from 200 -430 ft. Very few boats out there (especially after 11 AM)
  8. Just an FYI. We checked it out yesterday early AM and everything is locked up at the Coast Guard station as far as docks and there are no docks on the ramp itself. We opted for the public launch and that is a real mess because there is a foot deep hole in the pavement surface right in the middle of the launch and there is also a large submerged rock near the dock which is impossible to see in dim early morning light and I nearly wiped out my SS prop on it backing out. In addition despite power loading being forbidden there is a pile of rocks in the northern/center section of the area out from the ramp strongly suggest it is being done and when low water conditions prevail it will be impossible for larger boats to avoid it coming in or going out.
  9. Great posts Gill-T and King Davy and great sense of humor as well ....something we all need to keep at the end of this season. My son and I trolled from 7 AM until 430 PM yesterday from Sodus Point to Hughes and back without a hit with 6 rods out but worse than that we hardly marked a fish and very little bait and we fished from 40 ft. to 430 and back depth-wise. I had assumed that we would run into some matures enroute east or some silvers out deeper but it was a vast wasteland in appearance out there. Am I giving up on Lake O for ever? Hell no....it is just one of those years in a down cycle probably for most or all of the reasons stated and I look forward to giving it a go next year and hope for the best.....this situation is de ja vous for the many folks who have fished out there for many years. Don't lose heart....this lake has come back from many severe problems
  10. Steve I was trying to explain to folks who may be new to this stuff (not the guys who have been doing it forever) that you can't just ask someone on another boat what speed they were catching them at and match up that number on your boat and think you will be exactly matching what they are doing. I didn't mean to be "long winded" or make anything 'complicated".
  11. They look great Marty
  12. John Mann is the best around too.
  13. Check your email ED
  14. Yes last week on Seneca thye were all over the30 lb Sea Flee on my riggers and that was a first for them....seemed to have no impact on keeping them at bay.
  15. Tim makes a real good point here. Your speed is relative to the device on your boat and may or may not be directly comparable to the same device for a number of reasons on other boats with the same device.and it applies to both surface and down speed as well. For example, in the old days before we had the newer speed/temp devices we used a thing that you clamped to the gunwale of the boat and it had a gauge with different colored bands across it similar to a dial. the "needle" on it was attached to a wire a few ft long with a weight on it. You placed the weight in the water at the side of the boat and when you sped up it would make the needle go back and forth to different colors depending on how fast you went. You could make a little finer increments or gradations to the color bands by using either a black grease pencil or small thin colored piece of tape indicating either where a lure you tested at the side ran best or where you had a hit or caught a fish and then keep returning to that spot. The point is that it was a relative measure and would mean very little when referring to another boat even if it was traveling next to you using the same type device because of different shaped hulls, weight distribution in the boats, possibly the exact location of the device etc. The precise numbers on modern temp and speed devices depends on accurate calibration and these are not always on the mark either especially the paddle wheel types and for the reasons already mentioned may vary significantly from boat to boat or may even depend on weight distribution in a given boat. To answer the original question there is no one best speed for kings....the best speed for them is whatever you are catching them at with whatever you are using at the time on your particular boat under those same conditions using that same device to measure
  16. 12 footers in a 13 ft boat will do it.....been there done that....but not on purpose
  17. When you look upward from the boat and see nothing but water you can assume it might be time to come off the lake
  18. Anyone know if it is open for launching? Used to be after labor day but haven't used it in years. Thinking of going tomorrow AM
  19. When it comes down to it the best fillet knife is one that is sharp and stays that way. Most require occasional sharpening or "tuning up" if you are using them regularly.....there is no "miracle knife"... just some that are better made than others and hold an edge longer when sharpened properly.
  20. My wire rods are 6 1/2 ft roller rods with roller on first eye as well, 7 ft Ugly Sticks and other 8 1/2 rods for downriggers (depending on what I'm doing), 8 1/2 rods for the in-boards, 8 1/2 ft roller tip for chute copper (roller not essential for copper but comes in easier). Sometimes I run the in-lines out of holders in the front of the boat. I have 18 rod holders so a lot of options
  21. If you'd like a general idea of what an average fish (of many species weighs) consult the table in the DEC fishing syllabus that you get when you buy your license. It has a table for calculating an estimate based on length (e.g. 28 inch walleye = 7lbs. 10 oz. Good for ball parking but as we know they can vary a bit in either direction but it is a good "guesstimator" as well as an "aging" chart for bass.
  22. Sea IV setup sounds very much like my setup but the longest rod I have is 8 1/2 ft and so far I haven't gotten in trouble with that setup (and I also run a 250 or 300 copper down the chute). Just don't take any radical turns especially while setting up .
  23. Nice going Mike! beautiful FL rainbow...good luck on Keuka might want to think about "weed guards" when I was over there for a boat ride with friends last week much of it looked nearly unfishable because of them in the Branchport arm all over the surface. Hopefully you folks will catch a break and the current high wind will push the stuff onshore someplace beforehand.
  24. You certainly got started by seeking out the right person in Justin for your information base.....he is a very knowledgeable fisherman/sportsman and knows all the ins and outs of fishing Otisco in particular for the Tigers and Walleyes and generously shares much information in that regard and makes a great guide as well. Welcome to LOU and best of luck in your tiger quest. P.S. You are indeed very lucky to have your wife involved along with you.....for many of us it lasted about as long as the dating
  25. The ones in Seneca, Cayuga and Keuka eat them for breakfast Justin
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