Sk8man

Nice report Ed. No feeling like turning a youngster on to fishing

Not sure where you are located but the prop shop in Canandaigua is as good as it gets for prop repair and folks and marinas from all over the state send them there for repair. If it is an aluminum prop and the hub is still intact it may be repairable but if it were me I'd get a new prop as it would probably be about as expensive to repair it. Here is someplace to order a new one. http://boatpropellers.iboats.com/propeller-showcase/michigan-wheel/?cm_mmc=Google_Main-_-Props%3AGoogle%3AGreat+Lakes-_-Michigan+%28Opt%29%3AProps%3AGoogle%3AGreat+Lakes-_-michigan+wheel+props_Exact&mkwid=sMP9KYPJv&crid=69678357739&mp_kw=michigan%20wheel%20props&mp_mt=e&pdv=c&gclid=COCkl_ehx8YCFYKPHwodR0AE5g Boat Repair Shop 53 Leicester St, Canandaigua, NY 14424 (585) 394-1860

The marina where I bought the boat did the wiring but they go through the breaker box (30 Amp fusing?)

Thanks guys.

I have the long adjustable booms on my Cannons and have never had a problem but I also only use 10 lb weights too here are the plugins I have (4 of them spaced so I can operate either of two or three downriggers off any one on same side musing an alternate socket is one were to become dysfunctional.

Here is what they looked like last year on the downrigger wire at Keuka I've used the Sea Flee 30 lb for the past three years and it works great.

Nothing like a new boat to make things enjoyable out there.Looks like a beauty from what I could see in the pic. If you have inset rod holders there are things you can do to minimize drilling. You can get some gimbal mounts and mount a couple downriggers to them with swivel bases and if you have additional ones toward the cockpit along the gunwales another gimbal with a short section of track mounted to it and three Bert's ratcheting rod holders (metal ones) mounted to the track. Additional stainless rod holders (e.g. perko, Attwood or others) that are rail mounted could be located on the bow rail for additional rods. if you can get to them easily The nice thing is that you can take them on and off when using the boat recreationally....just a thought....no additional holes required. It is basically the way I went 13 years ago on my Whaler and it works well. P.S. I can run the 3rd downrigger just by lifting out whatever I have in the forward hole and inserting the rigger so there is also flexibility this way.

Nice looking rig Dave.

Admiral Byrd and I gave it a shot from 4PM -8;30PM tonight and targeted the steelhead and kings out in the depths. We motored out to 600 plus ft. and kept trolling NW out to 680 ft and then turned back south and then when we reached 658 ft we saw a nice steelie jumping in back of the boat and he was on the 5 color leadcore on the outrigger and it was then "game on" Bob had his hands full as this guy jumped roughly 30 times and I'm not exaggerating....I thought it might be an Atlantic at first because of it. The fish was literally out of the water more than he was in it all the way to the boat. A while later in about 600 ft. the downrigger went off and I had a jumper as well on the slider which had a prototype Revolution spoon I was trying out (not a production color but one I taped) and the steelie really slammed it and took line a bunch of times as well as jumped. These spoons work beautifully. We trolled further into 483 ft and Bob had another nice steelie on the downrigger. Trolled for a long time without any hits and we didn't mark hardly any fish or bait whatsoever while out there. On the way in trolling Bob had a double one off the rigger (got off near boat either small steelie or king) and one on a Walleye board with 4 color leadcore which was a small but healthy king released unharmed. All of the fish came from within the top 40 ft of water and we went 5 for 5. NO fleas were noted but the biting flies were pretty bad and they especially loved bob's feet It was a great time out there and beautiful weather and sweet sunset. I think Bob may have secretly been jealous that my fish was bigger than either of his so he didn't want my face recognized with the catch......aren't you glad you didn't hire him to take YOUR wedding pics?

I too have wondered about the fleas getting into their gills etc. I've also wondered if they actually eat them too whether inadvertently or on purpose. I think it is possible that they locate to avoid them too as you say. I do know that the fleas are distributed erratically within the water column which is probably why on large bodies of water like Lake Ontario some folks find them thick while others thin or not at all and it may depend too on WHERE in the column you primarily fish or set your lines. It would be interesting to know whether they actually concentrate just within the thermocline layer as it often travels up and down in the column. Unfortunately I'm not a fisheries biologist so like most folks and you I am curious about them and have more questions than answers. I do also know that when the temps decrease in the Fall the fleas seem to decrease radically and then disappear so there is definitely some type of relationship with the water temps or ranges of temps.

I understand Jim. You guys are both coming at it from different angles and it is not a straightforward problem and I certainly wish both of you luck in your respective ventures. The retail business and the manufacturing/distribution ends of things can be pretty different "animals" to tame

Thanks for the report Jim....pretty discouraging though. It looks as though this will be a season for "jiggers only" on Canandaigua and Keuka. The fleas were there but not real bad yet on Cayuga yesterday northern section. It sure does take a bit of the fun out of trolling though. It may be Fall before the water cools enough and the flea levels go down again. Guess the recreational boaters and sail guys will be having the lake mostly to themselves....it is really a shame.

Honey Bees are very good spoons and I'm glad they are still being manufactured and sold. With that said I also know Fishy is an honest businessman who always tries to accomodate folks including sharing his knowledge and information about Keuka Lake fishing especially and he is always amenable to stocking things of interest to fishermen. It is too bad things can't be worked out equitably with a resolution somehow so that both of you small business guys can profit from the sale of those lures and we the customers can continue fully supporting both of you in your efforts and then everyone wins. Sometimes compromises can do wonders for businesses.

What a day and to finish up with food like that....doesn't get any better Justin

WTG Jim. Great smile on your son's face makes it all worthwhile right?

Congrats Justin really nice fish .....especially the carp guess you weren't taking chances on a soft mouth and pulling the hook Man that tiger must have really inhaled that Bay Rat...

Jim PM sent with Fishy's address and phone #

Sure looks that way Nick WTG. Nice spoon assortment too

I lost a couple responses to guys PM's too but just a matter of hooking up the electrodes to my little pea brain and hopefully the little light bulb will go on again I second Mark's comment regarding Chad's efforts .....always right on top of things when they do happen and this site runs smoothly nearly all the time