Sk8man

Vicious doesn't have great breaking strength at the knot. Seguar is really good stuff and I use both the regular red label stuff (line type) but the blue label may be a bit stiffer as well as abrasion resistant. They now offer some more specialized fluros to but I haven't tried them. For flies I tie my own and use 50 lb MONO as it has a bit of shock absorption and stretch and I don't use snubbers on any of my rigs. Teh 50 lb Big Game mono is also pretty abrasion resistant.

I think you'll probably encounter opinions about Lowrance just as you would with the Birds. I can tell you that after years of Lowrance's (and currently have the Elite 7 HDI) the owner manuals and website "resources" totally suck and are a sad joke and the techies at Navico ( they now own Lowrance) have not been all that great or helpful from my perspective. The units themselves are acceptable. If you can afford it I'd say get a Furuno together with an Airmar transducer as they are a higher quality unit than most of the others and are highly reliable over time. They are by far the major choice of the commercial fishermen and that in itself says something.

Geez Mark.....and I had a hell of a time with Algebra

If you do send it for repairs take the opportunity to have some carbon fiber drags put in. You won't be sorry.

Thanks for the report Gerry. Hope to be over that way soon after the perch.

Andy if you decide to do Honeoye it may be advisable to do it early in the season rather than later because it becomes VERY congested with weeds in the warmer water and often there is a corresponding Blue -Green Algae/Coliform problem and swimming is prohibited then (for good reason)

Actually this sort of makes my point about not all water current being the same and a reason why they are fished differently. The currents in streams are a good example of a very different type of water current then that of the lakes because the water flow is restricted and concentrated laterally without the same cross current influences as present in a lake environment. The current is channeled mainly in one direction whereas the lake currents are more diffuse and have more lateral expanse and because the water is also deeper it has a very different verticality as well (i.e. path of travel in the water column) whereas streams are relatively shallow with ocassionally deeper "holes" but mostly shallow water constantly running in pretty much one direction in alignment with the land features (downward). Lake currents run more horizontally and even can run upward in the water column to a much greater degree and their directionality may be more significantly influenced by factors such as water temperature and wind direction and speed..

Jeff- Sean (above) would be the guy I'd recommend. Les

Andy you might want to try Ted's bait shop for info at 5772 Big Tree Road (Rt 20A) in Lakeville. Sorry I don't have his phone number handy.

Sounds as though you came up with the probable answer to your situation (transducer difference and placement. As far as everything I have read and deciphered the main difference between a CHIRP and non CHIRP unit ( e.g. the Elite7's) Is that is"cleans up" or adds to the signal a bit at the mid range giving it a little better target separation (e.g. between a fish and bait for example), higher definition (resolution) of the target, and cleans up some of the signal so there is less "static" looking stuff on the screen (provided someone isn't using a similar unit nearby ). I currently have the non-CHIRP HDI model and it seems to perform the tasks acceptably without CHIRP (defined arches and separation from bait at least when used on the 200khz mode. The 83 khz may be a little different situation when running deep.

Nick I fully agree that DEC does the best they can with it. The high water conditions always wreak havoc with their plans though and it looks like another of those years for it. They aren't the easiest critters to manage either.

Man....I was hoping they would get to it soon because those nasty things seem to be increasingly attached to fish once again on Seneca when for a few years conditions seemed to be much improved over the "old days" but it may also be part of the life cycle and adult status too.

I was about to answer but Paul got it first. I would add that what was recommended was for braided copper which most folks use but for single strand copper ANY kinks need to be cut out. because straightening the wire severely affects the integrity of it. Same for monel wiire