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For those folks new to or considering Seth Green (rig) fishing the best way to get a handle on it is to actually see a rig already set up and ask questions about it. A real good place to do this is at Fishy Business and the phone number and address are in my above post. Fishy is a real old school rig guy with a whole lot of experience and he is always eager to explain or discuss rig fishing with folks. Other than actually going out with someone and fishing rigs it is a very good way to get a quick handle on the basics and then put your own twist to it.

You're right Jason. I'm looking forward to it for sure especially after this brutal winter.

darkater1 - I've been with him when he deployed his rigs and after running rigs for most of my life I still would be perplexed doing it .....but t works! I'm still "old school" and much to the dismay of my buddy Arm Byrd I'm sticking with my tried and true methods

I fully agree Jason and I edited my above post to make it clearer that I was referring to my usual 3 rig presentation (2 down side rigs and a jug) when I go to 4 or more rigs I use the heavier weight as well for exactly the reasons you described.

As far as the weight issue of sinkers with rigs goes a lot depends on what you are running for rigs (e.g. wire vs. braid for main lines), what you are running on them (size and number of spoons or whether running cowbells at bottom etc.) and how you actually run them and at what speeds. The time of the season can also be a factor (when fish are up high for example or bottom oriented down deep) The amount of current present may also dictate how much weight you use.. It isn't simply just the amount of weight you get used to per se. You want to use enough weight to get you exactly where you wish to be in the water column (which is the main purpose of a Seth Green rig) and this position varies greatly according to the time of the season. I have sinkers of various weights in the boat from 8 ounces to 36 or so and I often combine these weights according to specific conditions or even changing conditions. There are times like during the summer months when the water temps are stratified that you want to use less weight so that your lures compress together a little tighter in a band within the water column for rainbows , landlocks or browns and at other times the use of additional weight is desirable when fishing deep or towards bottom for lakers. Jug rigs are another aspect....sometimes in high current you get a lot of additional drag through the water so you may wish additional weight to keeep things where you want them. I usually range between 24 ounces for a light rig up high to 48 ounces or so for my heaviest usually with a 3 rig presentation but I have also run 64 oz before with 4 or more rigs. Trolling speed will also dictate the weight used as you need more to keep your stuff down at higher speeds especially with large spoons (e.g. 88's Evil Eyes etc.). P.S. It should probably be against the law for Hop to use those big sinkers because he is already too dangerous during derbies

The guy's name is Gerry Pease. He is located at 3737 Pepper Road Bluff Point NY (607) 368-2306 or (315) 719-3673 (closed Tuesdays) Toget there justgo to the road the Keuka State Park is on and go past the park about a mile or so it will be on the left (White House with sign in front) His shop is in the big pole barn there.

Nice going Corey ....you did better than most of the rest of us on the Finger Lakes Sunday

Depending on the Lowrance model you can usually purchase a separate paddle wheel for surface speed on the Lowrance website. Be aware there are different ones for different unit models and they aren't real cheap (e.g. about $100) for some. Also they don't automatically setup on the unit you have to go into the nested menu find a questionable label (can't remember exactly what it is called)and set it up to recognize the paddle wheel sensor) otherwise it doesn't do anything and the procedure isn't listed anywhere that I know of you have to explore. The Lowrance folks have never been great about documentation

I've had most of my stuff ready since about a week after last years derby I look forward to it all year long. You'll have no excuses for not doing well with that incredible new rig Nick

The new Bluetooth Fishhawk X4D (the one with the RED screen on the display) reportedly has the surface speed as well.

I second Chris' comment it is a good reference for folks to looks at to distinguish between them and nice going on the fishing

Shoulda had a pic of Joe biting the head of that lamprey...could have had it framed and put up in the galley....would cut down on having to buy groceries

That's really great news Jason

I hear ya Mike....if things don't pick up at the north end before the derby I may have to ask one of the south guys to adopt me I'm doing a lot of praying right now

Now if you were just a northender it all would be perfect Sweet ride Nick!