Sk8man

Good one Gary! Yeah I suppose next you'll recommend a good psychologist

I think we hit the 560 water too late today. I think you were headed in about 11:45 when we spotted you underway. We made the mistake of not going right out there and screwing around in shallower until about the time you were on your way in. Live and learn

Nice brown Ed....hey are you guys hooking an air hose up those fish's butts or what? Man....they must be chowing down 24x7

Great news Jason and about time you guys caught a break.....lets hope this is a good omen for the future.

Thanks Pete Here is what mine looked like

I hope you don't have any more of those but I'm sure you'd enjoy the wine country if you do. There must be well over100 wineries to choose from.... Let's hope tomorrow brings some good king fishing....we're going to give them a shot tomorrow AM at either Sodus or Hughes.Good luck folks!

There are various versions of trolling plates and they work but most you have to remember to disengage them after trolliing etc. and they can be a pain others have springs only and don't need to be disengaged but usually they are for relatively small motors (outboard). Something less involved is to get yourself a couple sea bags and deploy them they can usually do the trick for most folks...take a little getting used to but a more conservative approach to try first rahter than drilling holes in your lower unit.

nice brown Ed. Home today but looks like Lake O in the AM

Tim's point here is a VERY good one. There is always a lot of discussion about specific speeds for different setups and really it is all relative because of varying accuracy of devices, different ways of measuring (over bottom or water surface etc.) and various other factors specific to each situation. The most important factor is "repeatability" using the specific device you are using to measure. Thus the significance of 2.4 mph on one boat may be quite different on another in a different location with different currents, wind speeds etc. affecting the way the setup runs in that particular situation. Those "effective" speeds from one boat to another should always be considered as "range" factors or "guesstimates" at best and not as hard fast accurate measures.

We did the Seneca Wine Trail (west side) two weeks ago with friends visiting from Delaware and it was great....they absolutely loved it. We've done the Keuka lake one several times and Cayuga once. Inexpensive wine tastings, great wine and I ended up with a case of our favorites from the different wineries before going to dinner at the NYS Wine and Culinary Center Upstairs Bistro in Canandaigua (incredible cuisine and wonderful atmosphere overlooking the pier and lake))... at the end of it and we only covered about a half dozen wineries from 12 N till 5 PM.

Very nice.... beautiful fish that male had nice coloration too WTG

Thanks Kevin. I did take pics a while back of ALL my stuff but of course there have been additions since that point i spent most of today reorganizing them in new boxes so I'm in good shape now.

Yeah Nick your dad fought that one so hard it even curled his stash

Try 2.3 -2.5 with the dipsey and downriggers Normally you shouldn't be able to see a dipsey on your depth finder and it suggests you are going too slow. Llakers can move when they are interested in something . Just release a lively one sometime and watch it go like a missle toward the bottom.

I do feel very lucky....and Pap is right....the family time is of the utmost importance.

Before getting too "wigged out" about setup particulars keep in mind trolling on Keuka has been particularly difficult for most folks this year. Jiggers have been more successful but even they have had some tough days out there. Keuka and Canandaigua as well have been unusually problematic. Don't give up though as these "doldrum" days can actually lead to experimentation and hardcore fishing which may lead to things you might not have otherwise tried. The seventies on Seneca was just such a time for me and I learned a whole lot by not giving up and changing up things as I went along....putting in some long hours per fish but the lessons were invaluable.

Nick - sometimes you can throw the preferred temp theory out the window....in the past I've connected with them in 70 plus water at 50 ft. out in front of Maxwell and then caught an eel (dodger/squid) in the same water. When they are "homing in" on their origin water they can be anywhere.

Bob

Thanks guys I knew I could drum up some sympathy.....my wife's view of it is ...why do you need so many....and....how much did all that stuff cost ? Geez they were all on sale ....honest sounds good Mike will have to see what the weather brings us.