Thanks Kevin. I did take pics a while back of ALL my stuff but of course there have been additions since that point i spent most of today reorganizing them in new boxes so I'm in good shape now.
Try 2.3 -2.5 with the dipsey and downriggers Normally you shouldn't be able to see a dipsey on your depth finder and it suggests you are going too slow. Llakers can move when they are interested in something . Just release a lively one sometime and watch it go like a missle toward the bottom.
Both of those spots are usually real good as well as southwest across from the park (Chidsey Point area). The Hammondsport end is good as well. It is primarily a matter of locating actively feeding fish (as usual) but those are the spots to look first.
Before getting too "wigged out" about setup particulars keep in mind trolling on Keuka has been particularly difficult for most folks this year. Jiggers have been more successful but even they have had some tough days out there. Keuka and Canandaigua as well have been unusually problematic. Don't give up though as these "doldrum" days can actually lead to experimentation and hardcore fishing which may lead to things you might not have otherwise tried. The seventies on Seneca was just such a time for me and I learned a whole lot by not giving up and changing up things as I went along....putting in some long hours per fish but the lessons were invaluable.
Nick - sometimes you can throw the preferred temp theory out the window....in the past I've connected with them in 70 plus water at 50 ft. out in front of Maxwell and then caught an eel (dodger/squid) in the same water. When they are "homing in" on their origin water they can be anywhere.
One thing quickly comes to mind- when you are running the dipsey freely it has very different action and range of motion than when it is restricted by the attachment to the downrigger and the two methods are far from "equal". The reasons for not hitting the downrigger can be numerous - wire noise, length of lead on the lure, current interaction with the weightl/lure etc. Sometimes they want the riggers and sometimes they want the dipseys out away from turbulence of the motor and weight etc. Go with what works!
Thanks guys I knew I could drum up some sympathy.....my wife's view of it is ...why do you need so many....and....how much did all that stuff cost ? Geez they were all on sale ....honest sounds good Mike will have to see what the weather brings us.
I had cleaned out all the fishing stuff from the boat and put the cushions back in it so my wife and daughter could go on a comfortable boat ride and some swimming yesterday on Canandaigua. During the process I had to rip apart my usual noodles that I keep on the bimini top supports with nearly 200 spoons on it and extract 4 plastic boxes of spoons numbering in the hundreds. I placed them in the back of my Expedition along with some salmon stuff and 8 rods and reels large net etc. so the back was totally full of stuff with the boxes of lures and stuff on noodles at the very back because I expected to put the stuff back in the boat when I returned home. We had a nice time for several hours at the north end and then when it was time to go home I brought the boat to the dock and then put it on the trailer secured it and on an angle went to pull it out of the water .....then it happened....all four boxes full of lures and the others on pieces of styrofoam (which I intended to re do when I got home) slid out of the back and into 3 foot of dirty water and immediately sunk because of the weight. I got out and with my hip boots on felt around (luckily no water snakes present ) and retrieved all of them eventually ....but the boxes were full of water so when I got home I had to open them up and spead spoons out on the cellar floor to dry out. I took a pic after two of the boxes and did the others later in another part of the cellar...what a pain....if I had just remembered to close the back lid on the Expedition....but I forgot about the lures. Now I'm dreading having to sort them out again
I always make sure the DRAG on the riggers is set right so that it will pull the weight up OK but if excessive weight is on it the drag will kick in. It should slip when the weight reaches the tip if the downrigger if set right (those with no autostop). I recently had the occasion to test both of mine out (along with the dipseys) when my buddy and I were totally out of it BSing on Seneca and not looking at the finder and we came up from 150 plus water into 27 ft.
You certainly picked two very accomplished fishermen to go with and it sounds as though you had a fish fest Anyone take any pics or were you too busy ?
Back in the old days when I was a lot crazier than now (early 80's) I used to chase the steelies out 10 or 12 miles out with my litlle 13 ft Whaler and those things would be going by me and some of the guys on board would either scratch their heads or just look at me in disbelief and some of the ships had 23 or 25 foot dingys on board
Kev - Screwie Louie at Fairhaven fixes Cannons. I believe he is the closest to you. Nice going on the fishing. The 307fish.com guys at Lake George also do them but that is a bit far. Good going on the fishing Kev. As Andy said you "switched gears" to the old stand by method without missing a beat
Dave - Sheila looks like she is getting used to grabbing the rod and holding up fish afterward... you're going to have to practice getting faster on the draw Nice going!