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Ed, I know you are correct on that as Seneca has both types of fleas big time and I'm keeping the Sea Flee stuff handy and I always take a couple setups of the SF with me as well so I can just switch over to them but I figured it is worth experimenting to see first hand as I switched from12 to thirty and I sure know how the 12 lb worked out ....nothing like having a good fish on and not being able to reel in your line
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I've used Blood Run Sea Flee for last season and this one so far and it is very good at keeping the fleas off the main line (30 lb) and in my view better than Flea Flicker because it is round. On the other hand it has a LOT of stretch to it. so I pulled it off two of my downrigger reels and went back to 20 lb Big game on them for this season to compare. The 30 lb Big Game on downriggers seems like rope to me after using 12 lb for all these years even for kings so I went with 20 even though I know it may attract fleas...I can always put the Sea Flee back on them if too bad. Rusty rat you may want to just increase the number of twists in the loop before putting it in the arm of the release it solved most of it for me (some of the"slippage" may be the large amount of stretch in the sea Flee line itself)
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It would seem that like a lot of things in life this situation is a double edged sword....and the time honored concept of "balance" is key to making it come outright. On the one hand if you guys(and perhaps others) hadn't touted the great fishing there DEC might not have realized what an important fishery it can be but on the other hand it is not a real big body of water and potential "over fishing" is a concern since natural reproduction isn't occurring with noticeable frequency. It also appears to me that the uninitiated or inexperienced Walleye and Tiger fishermen without very specific knowledge or capabilities are going to be struggling somewhat to effectively fish it. The fact that fishing it at night is the most productive time/method many folks will not be all that gung ho or comfortable to be launching and traveling around in the dark, and it is a distance to travel to from many areas of the state where high densities of fishermen may have it easier to get to other (perhaps less desirable though) alternatives. I guess human nature is such also that folks move on to other things (and places) pretty quickly these days....so maybe things will turn out better than suspected. As long as the DEC and State see it as viable and worth $$$ they will continue to keep it going....but "reminders" can be important
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Good luck Al.
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I think the max might be 13-14 gal. for that model and year.
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I think Kinger might be slipping in spoons that don't work in the pics because he knows that Ed is too generous with info Go Kinger!
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Al I think there are some there but certainly not like in years past when the weed beds were extensive there. It may be worth trolling with (floppy heavier) spoons (like daredevles etc.) run way back at the edge of weed beds or casting back in from outside the edges. I'd checkout the area on the west side from the arterial bridge to the golf course and the area north of the high banks on the east side in about 20 ft of water a little deeper if it is real clear back to Melon's Cove.
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Senaca Lake help for this Friday 6/20
Sk8man replied to Fishbowl836's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
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Hey Guff - Those big ole boys were in there in the late Fall and early winter too as well as north toward the swimming area casting from shore.
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Senaca Lake help for this Friday 6/20
Sk8man replied to Fishbowl836's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
As always Sean's info is right in the bullseye and he is a very good example of what happens when you spend intensive time out there paying attention to detail and fully incorporate those details into your strategies and setups. It is information you can "take to the bank". The point about Sutton's being "speed sensitive" is worth noting....very true and I don't mix them with my other faster stuff unless it is on purpose (to cover radical changes in range of trolling speeds) I also believe Mike's "advice" comment is totally valid and it is a belief I've held too for many years. -
Senaca Lake help for this Friday 6/20
Sk8man replied to Fishbowl836's topic in Finger Lakes Discussion
After spending much of my life fishing Seneca Lake (mainly since the 1950's) I have to agree with Joe on this one. Seneca Lake has become a great trout and perch fishery in the past couple decades but back in the 1970's it often took about 4 hrs or more to catch a legal trout (according to the DEC diaries I kept). It is a very big deep lake and for people unfamiliar with it especially it can be very challenging. I think Ray is also correct in that if you fish it frequently and get a feel for the target species habits and live locally so that you are privy to local information from friends and tackle shop folks etc. you have a decided advantage in being successful fishing it. Also back in previous times the "southenders" often stayed pretty much at the south end and the northenders stayed pretty much at the north end and the folks in the Dresden/Sampson/Lodi locales fished mostly in their own part of the lake (within a few miles) so they gained intensive firsthand knowledge of their defined areas. Fishing on Seneca has in some ways come full circle from the early and mid 1900's when my grandfather was out there jerking copper and trolling from a row boat. He used the first Sutton spoons (see pic) way back then as well as Geneva spoons (pic) and a few years ago I caught fish on them for old times sake...and they still work. My point is that all the new fancy equipment doesn't guarantee fish and you can troll for hours out there without a hit if you don't know what you are doing and don't use the right setups for the conditions and seasons. Most of the new equipment and lure types and colors catch even more fishermen than fish...they work but you still need to know how to use them out there. Fishbowl- I sent you a PM yesterday. -
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My suggestion is to get one of each and try stuff behind them and view the difference for your self....everyone here will have their favorite colors and setups so first hand experience is probably superior to opinions in this case and it can be especially helpful to experiment with your own boat and equipment if you want to run them properly and then ask "fine tuning" questions based on that.
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I'm not sure of exact measurement but my hunch is about a couple miles (It is a Uniden Atlantis model by the way)
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First time out on the river. I lost a big one at the boat.
Sk8man replied to Kevin J Legg's topic in Walleye
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I have one and it doesn't carry all that far even with the 5W setting.In order to get any distance you need a regular unit with a good antennae. The primary advantage is portability....I can take it with me on someone else's boat if they don't have one.
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Hey Kev, I guess things don't always go smoothly on Father's Day but you sure lucked out on retrieving your board and setup. The girls took me out for dinner and drinks at the Sandbar so I got to watch folks going out the channel and coming back in but that is as close to the water as I came Great dinner and drinks though....
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Yankee's Tourney Month
Sk8man replied to Yankee Troller's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Great fishing and report Rick -
Hughes 6/17
Sk8man replied to Frogger's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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You guys are kinda hard on me.....good thing I don't have sensitive feelings... Some things never change like the ball busting I'm subjected to...and which I hardly ever do myself
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Hank's right and I should have thought of that too Fran Barrett at Barrett Marine between Geneva and Waterloo is the best around for Mercs and Optimax in particular and he has the largest selection of Merc parts in this whole area right there on hand. I know is a bit of a drive but if you want to make sure it is done right take it there. He is honest as the day is long and very fair. Here is his number etc.: Barrett Marine 485 West River Road Waterloo, New York 13165 315-789-6605 or 1-800-924-8940 Fax: 315-781-2401 E-mail: [email protected]
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Sodus Bay 6-16 AM
Sk8man replied to reelintense's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)